DC fires the OC. LOL

[Michael K.]

So, the Offense saves the Defenses ass in the Season Finale, QB throws for four TDs and hits three more incentives. And the DC fires the OC. Despite the Defense looking rather sub par.

I realize it is a season's worth of work that did this. But it always baffles me when the HC seems to get to the end of the year and fire a guy for what he did all year....when all you had to do is tell him to do it differently, right? One season? Yikes.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/433 ... one-season

[trharder]

Strange subject/title to Grubb getting fired.

Hey, ya'll - Grubb is fired.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/101 ... g-playoffs

I'm glad.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I realize it is a season's worth of work that did this. But it always baffles me when the HC seems to get to the end of the year and fire a guy for what he did all year....when all you had to do is tell him to do it differently, right?

I think that was the problem. MM was telling him to do things differently (e.g. run the ball more) and RG didn't or wouldn't comply.

[Bil522]

I realize it is a season's worth of work that did this. But it always baffles me when the HC seems to get to the end of the year and fire a guy for what he did all year....when all you had to do is tell him to do it differently, right?

I think that was the problem. MM was telling him to do things differently (e.g. run the ball more) and RG didn't or wouldn't comply.

Or couldn't....Interior OL is crap and has been for far too long

[Hasslecracked]

No OC in history could run the ball behind our shit interior line. I think they gave up too fast on him.

[D-train]

It wasn't about being effective at running the ball it was about passing the ball on 3rd and one.

[trharder]

No OC in history could run the ball behind our shit interior line. I think they gave up too fast on him.

Maybe the O-line isn't quite the scapegoat you thought it was... Brock Huard and Mark Schlereth have been strongly hinting this for awhile now.

[Michael K.]

The Gruff firing means you have a defensive minded coach that wants to control the ball. Not sure why he hired the OC he did, based on how Washington played offense the last two years with Grubb as the OC. But he just fired a guy that had the offense at 18th over all and passing offense at 8th, with a QB that let's be honest, is middle of the road at best. Every body with a passing offense ahead of him has been considered a success this year. I also remember reading that we ran far fewer plays than other teams. That is by design. MacDonald is setting the tone, and the tone is I want a ball control offense. Good luck with this roster.

And sorry, we ran the ball plenty in short yardage situations...and the O Line got destroyed. Again, good luck running the Offense that Mike wants with this roster.

[Michael K.]

I mean obviously? The HC isn't firing the DC, when he is the DC. But do we really think that all it would have taken was a different play caller and this team now wins 11 or more games and makes the playoffs? Did we really think a guy that coached the Washington Huskies the last two years was going to not only come into the NFL in year 1 and do better than this, but also change what he does and start running the ball and burning clock?

The Offense saved the Defenses ass yesterday against the Rams. OFFENSE

The Defense saved the Offenses ass in a win over the Bears. DEFENSE

We lead the Vikings in the fourth quarter and a blown coverage lost us the game. 24 points against the Vikings is pretty good. Hard to blame the Offense for that loss. OFFENSE

The offense was pretty bad against Green Bay, and the defense gave up 30 points! NEITHER

Beat the Cards 30 to 18. Pretty good all around. BOTH

Beat the Jets 26 to 21. Defense not only scored but shut out the Jets the final three quarters. DEFENSE

Beat the Cards 16 to 6. DEFENSE

Beat a still relevant 49er team on a last minute drive by Geno and the offense. Scoring 20 in a win over that Niner team is pretty damn good. OFFENSE

Laid a huge egg at home against the Rams. Offense killed us. DEFENSE

31 to 10 loss to the Bills that didn't even feel that close in the second half. NEITHER

Beat the Falcons 31 to 14. Both units looked sharp. BOTH

Blown out by the 49ers. Scoring 24 but giving up 36. And I don't remember ever really stopping them. OFFENSE

Gave up 29 to the Fucking Giants. Sorry, I know the Offense wasn't great. But that is down right terrible. The Giants scored over 20 twice in the next 12 weeks, and one other time scored 20. HORRIBLE effort by the defense that day. More inexcusable, IMO, than the offense choking the Rams game. OFFENSE

Scored 29 points against Lions defense that wasn't yet ravaged by injury. Gave up 42! OFFENSE

Beat the Dolphins 24 to 3 and it wasn't even that close. BOTH

Beat the Patriots 23 to 20. The defense spent the entire first half not being able to find Hunter Henry. OFFENSE

Beat the Broncos 26 to 20. Offense was atrocious in the first half, but finished pretty well. Against a Denver Defense that turned out to be one of the best in the League. DEFENSE

If you agree with my scoring? That's seven games for the Offense. Five for the Defense. Three where they both played well and two where they both sucked. So? Fire the OC?

Of the Losses? The Defense shit the bed against the Bills, Vikings, Lions, Giants and Packers.
The offense? Shit the bed against the Bills and Packers.

So? Simply play better defense against the Lions and Giants and we get the one more win we need. Play better offense against the Bills and Packers and we lose anyway because the defense was that bad. But all anyone talks about is how we couldn't run the ball so the OC sucks. So, the Rams loss was so much worse than what the Defense did against the Vikings and Giants? Not in my opinion. The HC is in charge of the defense, but instead of falling on his sword and taking ownership, he cuts off the head of the OC.

I'm a little biased because Grubb called the offense the last two years for my Dawgs, and DAMN that offense was fun to watch. But this smells a lot like Pete Carroll scapegoating Blair Walsh for being the shitty kicker he was when we signed him, or every OC Pete fired because they ran the same shitty ass offense he made them run. I was excited that Mike M. hired a bright young mind that came from a passing attack. The guy basically made JSN a Pro Bowler. The run game sucked because we have one back that's always hurt, another that's really not a starter in the NFL, and a dogshit O Line...so fire the guy known for his passing attack after one year? When he had Geno Smith at QB and was 8th in the NFL and 6th in the NFC. If we throw for 2.8 more yards per game? The Passing offense would have been 5th in the NFL and 4th in the NFC. So? Fire the guy known for his passing attack, because he threw the football. Strange.

[trharder]

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2025/1/6/243 ... oordinator

"Seahawks offense posted uninspiring numbers under Ryan Grubb
Grubb’s strong background of high-scoring success in college football did not easily translate to the pros. While there were extenuating factors like (as usual) a bad offensive line, adjusting to rule differences between college and the NFL, and facing one of the more difficult schedules of opposing defenses, Grubb’s unit was a major disappointment.

The Seahawks had their fewest points per drive since 2011, continued to struggle in the red zone, and ranked near the bottom in the NFL in explosive play rate.

Ryan Grubb rarely used play action
In a big change from the past few Seahawks offensive coordinators, Grubb sought a straight dropback game with Geno Smith. Seattle ran play action at one of the lowest rates in the NFL. Even when the Seahawks did utilize play action, the results were poor and had a tendency to be predictable based on formation tells.

Seahawks were extraordinarily pass heavy
Hopes of a revitalized running game never turned into reality. The Seahawks not only lacked a potent rushing attack, but they seldom tried to commit to a run game. Grubb called one of the most pass-centric offenses in the NFL and relied heavily on shotgun, although his usage rate of shotgun did decline a bit after the Week 10 bye.

Geno Smith finished the season fourth in pass attempts with 578, and it could’ve easily been north of 600 if not for an injury against the Green Bay Packers that took him out for much of the 2nd half.

History repeats itself for the Seahawks
Believe it or not, this is the fourth straight time the Seahawks have changed offensive coordinators following their new head coach’s first season.

Pete Carroll moved on from Jeremy Bates following the 2010 season, hiring Darrell Bevell the following offseason. Greg Knapp, Jim Mora’s offensive coordinator in 2009, was obviously not retained by Carroll after Mora was fired. Mike Sherman was Mike Holmgren’s first offensive coordinator when the Seahawks hired him in 1999, only for Sherman to return to the Green Bay Packers to be their head coach. Sherman was replaced by Gil Haskell, who remained Holmgren’s OC for the duration of his Seattle tenure.

The last first-year Seahawks head coach to retain his offensive coordinator for multiple seasons was Dennis Erickson, who had Bob Bratkowski at the position for the entirety of his four-year stint."

And now the search is on for the Seahawks’ third offensive coordinator since firing Brian Schottenheimer at the end of the 2020 season.