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Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:22 pm
by D-train
Not to mention going way overboard with the "Race" analogy.
By Mike Vorel
Seattle Times staff reporter
Think of Washington’s quarterback competition like a race.

There are three competitors: returning starter Dylan Morris, graduate transfer Patrick O’Brien and early enrollee freshman Sam Huard.

Morris — a 6-foot, 210-pound redshirt sophomore — has won this race before, albeit against a different crop of contenders.

A newcomer, the 6-5, 245-pound O’Brien, is easily the most experienced runner in the field.

As for Huard? Well, he might have the liveliest legs — and his family has won its fair share of races. But a lot will have to happen for Huard to cross the finish line first.

On Monday, following UW’s fourth practice of the spring, offensive coordinator John Donovan was asked to assess his ongoing quarterback competition.

“You’ve never arrived. The second you think you’ve arrived is the second you’re going to get lapped,” UW’s ever-enthusiastic quarterbacks coach said. “You’ve got to keep pushing at every spot. I don’t care who it is. That’s what the deal is right now (for the quarterbacks). Everybody’s got to worry about themselves and not worry about who they’re going against. Over time we’ll see who pushes who. It’s probably going to take a while to get that done.”

Yes, for now, the finish line is fluid. But Morris has earned the pole position. In four games last fall, the four-year starter at Graham-Kapowsin High School completed 61% of his passes and threw for 897 yards. He passed for four touchdowns, ran for two and threw three interceptions — helping the Huskies to a 3-1 record and a Pac-12 North Division crown. He’s the only UW quarterback with Pac-12 experience and a year in Donovan’s pro-style offense.

Through four practices, Morris has earned the entirety of the first-team reps — with O’Brien (second team) and Huard (third team) working in behind him. But don’t expect the third-year passer from Puyallup to look over his shoulder.

“He’s a tough kid. He’s a smart kid. He’s got things to work on, just like everybody else,” Donovan said of Morris. “When you’re running a race and you’re at the line, you’re running against yourself. You’re not worried about who’s next to you. So that’s what he’s doing. He’s running his own race right now, and he knows what he needs to do to improve.”

For O’Brien and Huard, the priorities are a little more pressing. They’re racing while simultaneously learning the route. But when redshirt junior Jacob Sirmon and freshman Ethan Garbers both transferred this offseason, Donovan was suddenly saddled with a single scholarship quarterback.

Which is what piqued his interest in O’Brien — a sixth-year senior with experience at Nebraska and Colorado State.

“He’s played a lot of ball. He’s smart,” Donovan said of O’Brien, who threw for 3,394 yards with 16 touchdowns and nine interceptions in his last two seasons at CSU. “All of a sudden we were down to one guy, and I was like, ‘Whoa, OK.’ So we hit (the transfer portal), and I started watching a bunch of guys.

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“The fact that he had some experience, and I knew a couple people who knew him and knew his character and what kind of kid he was (made him attractive). I liked what I saw on tape. When I went through with him some of the stuff that we do, he was able to grasp that. He’d done similar concepts. I could tell he’d been around and should be able to step in and learn this thing quicker than maybe a true freshman or a one-year guy off the street.”

So, speaking of true freshmen off the street: say hello to Sam Huard! But Huard, admittedly, is unlike all the others. The day before he moved into his UW dorm, the 6-2, 190-pounder set the state passing record (with 13,214 career yards) in his final prep game at Kennedy Catholic. He arrived with a five-star ranking and a renowned last name.

Now, after spending four years immersed in the Air Raid offense, Huard is diving headfirst into Donovan’s pro-style system.

“It’s like learning a new language. If I had to learn Spanish in three days, I probably wouldn’t be bilingual,” Donovan said. “So he’s learning a whole new language. It is football, so he can throw when he needs to — if he sees a guy open here or there or whatever it may be. But I tell the guys, ‘Hear the call. Know the call. Do your job.’ So first he has to hear it and say the call. It’s one thing to say it and another thing to know it, and another thing to do it. He’s done a good job initially of being able to spit out the calls.

“All things considered, he’s been pretty good here for three days, just getting out there.”

Of course, Morris, O’Brien and Huard are ultimately racing for the right to run Washington’s offense — which ranked second in the conference in third-down conversion rate (48.15%), fifth in scoring (30.3 points per game), ninth in total yards (402.8 per game) and 11th in red zone touchdown percentage (55.56%) in four games last fall.

In all, Donovan’s first season at UW was at times frustrating, intriguing — and incomplete.

“(The games) felt like a spring practice, kind of. It was like four scrimmages with nobody in the stands,” a sighing, chuckling Donovan said. “But I thought we did some good things. When you look back on it, though, I thought the guys did a good job of being able to understand the plays and run the plays to be successful. There is a lot of fine-tuning that can be done from last year — like exact alignments and where we’ve got to be outside, splits inside, landmarks. It enabled us to get a little snapshot of us doing it against somebody else.

“Now, to me, it’s about perfecting the details of it to take the next step.”

Because there’s always another race to run.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:10 am
by Michael K.
Last year's offense was hard to watch way more than it was acceptable. Look at those very average numbers, then remember they beat AZ like the JV team Arizona is. Without that game I promise we are bottom third in the Conference in just about every stat that has anything to do with the QB.

If Dillon Morris wins the job I will be dumbfounded. Small, slow and weak armed should not be the goal for QB 1 at Washington. But, what do I know? He lead a comeback against a shitty Utah team that should have never been beating us, he also "lead" two of the worst first half performances I have ever seen. And I watched 0 and 12.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:58 pm
by Captain 97
If Dillon Morris Starts over the #1 pro style QB recruit in the country, Lake should immediately be shown the door.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:28 pm
by D-train
Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:58 pm
If Dillon Morris Starts over the #1 pro style QB recruit in the country, Lake should immediately be shown the door.
I agree but the Tea Leaves are screaming "Bow down to Dillon Morris!" right now.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:15 pm
by Michael K.
To me he is Jake Browning 2.0 minus the great Sophomore season with Tedford running the offense. Thinking back to this offense against Utah and Stanford makes me want to throw up in my mouth. Could Morris have gotten better? Sure, but if he is better than the #1 QB recruit in the Nation? Then we need to stop reading anything about HS recruits because these guys grading them are fucking idiots

There used to be a special, I believe on the NFL network, called Elite 11. They taped that camp and the competitions, etc. The only QBs I can think of that didn't start right away that were featured heavily in that were Josh Fields, and that is because he was going to Georgia behind Frohm, who was the darling the year before, and only sat because Eason was the darling the year before! And Trevor Lawrence might have sat a couple of games, but he was coming into a program with a returning starting QB and a team that played for the NC the year before.

NON of them walked into a dog shit passing attack lead by Dylon Morris. Maybe Lake is just saying all the right things, but he talked up Morris last off season and non of us believed him. Then the other two older Studs never even saw the field. Remember Morris against OSU, Utah and Stanford and tell me he should be starting over the best HS QB in the land? Look at that offense when it wasn't playing a very shitty AZ team and tell me that is what we want for next year?

Gross.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:02 pm
by Captain 97
I know you don't like Browning and refuse to acknowledge that his stats were actually very good, but Morris is no where near the QB that Browning was. He had a lower completion percentage and a lower QB Rating than Browning did as a Freshman. Also if you project his stats out, he would have had about 300 less yards and 4 fewer Touchdowns than Browning did as a Freshman. Also Browning was a true freshman while Morris red shirted.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:42 pm
by D-train
Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:02 pm
I know you don't like Browning and refuse to acknowledge that his stats were actually very good, but Morris is no where near the QB that Browning was. He had a lower completion percentage and a lower QB Rating than Browning did as a Freshman. Also if you project his stats out, he would have had about 300 less yards and 4 fewer Touchdowns than Browning did as a Freshman. Also Browning was a true freshman while Morris red shirted.
Agree. So basically a homeless man's Jake Browning is getting far more snaps than the most highly touted QB recruit in school history.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:09 am
by 57reasons
D-train wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:42 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:02 pm
I know you don't like Browning and refuse to acknowledge that his stats were actually very good, but Morris is no where near the QB that Browning was. He had a lower completion percentage and a lower QB Rating than Browning did as a Freshman. Also if you project his stats out, he would have had about 300 less yards and 4 fewer Touchdowns than Browning did as a Freshman. Also Browning was a true freshman while Morris red shirted.
Agree. So basically a homeless man's Jake Browning is getting far more snaps than the most highly touted QB recruit in school history.
True, Browning was better than Morris. but he also had the superior cast with John Ross, Dante Pettis, Myles Gaskin and at least as good of an OL. dont forget Morris only had 4 games last year, and was working in the new sytem under Donovan. I too thought his arm was weak, but oddly current reports are to the contrary. More concerning with him though was that he didnt look all that accurate last year either. have to hope that improves, cause Huard's not only catching up to the speed of the game at the next level, but also learning to play under center. And at well under 200 pounds he's probly got some physical maturing to do still too. think the hype train is gonna have to chill for a year at least.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:49 pm
by D-train
Mailbag:
By Mike Vorel
Seattle Times staff reporter
The Washington Huskies are halfway home.

As Jimmy Lake’s team wraps up its seventh practice of the spring this weekend, let’s open the mailbag and answer a few questions from UW football fans.

Q: What are the chances that Sam Huard gets on the field this year? — Steve

A: There is a chance.

Would I encourage you to bet on it? No, I wouldn’t.

Through seven practices this spring, Huard has worked entirely with the third team, and it’s easy to see why. The 6-foot-2, 190-pound passer — who played exclusively in an Air Raid offense at Kennedy Catholic High School — is adjusting daily to the offensive system, the calls, the route tree, the snaps under center and the speed of the game. As a byproduct, there have been intermittent mistakes — such as Friday when he stared down a shallow crossing route to tight end Quentin Moore and threw an easy interception to nickelback Kamren Fabiculanan instead.

Besides, the cupboard isn’t otherwise bare at UW. Sophomore Dylan Morris — the Huskies’ returning starter — has taken every snap with the first-team offense. And though he rarely makes the remarkable play, Morris is consistently accurate on shallow and intermediate routes and understands how to avoid mistakes and escape pressure. Meanwhile, sixth-year senior Patrick O’Brien has proven plenty capable as well and may actually have the best arm strength of the bunch.

With all that said, Huard’s arm talent is undeniable. He’s the state’s all-time passing leader for a reason, a natural leader with the velocity and touch to make NFL throws. Maybe, with a full 15 practices under his belt, he’ll absorb the offense and that talent will take over.

But for now, Morris is still in the driver’s seat for the starting job. Huard may be the future, but it’s going to take time.

Q: Mike, how does the UW staff view the transfer portal? Will it be used in a similar fashion as the NFL where teams may want to say move down the draft because of their positioning (aka recruiting)? Obviously, we won’t know who is going to be available. Just curious on thought process. — Jerry G

Q: How do you see recruiting/recruiting philosophies changing with the “one free transfer” rule going forward? — Jonathan Horton-Loup

A: Let’s try to knock these both out at once. The foremost priority for Jimmy Lake and Co. will continue to be recruiting, signing and developing high-school recruits. They almost certainly will not bypass recruiting a certain position or player in the high-school ranks with the thought that they’ll land a transfer instead.

But, with that said, the one-time transfer rule — which allows players to transfer one time and be immediately eligible at their next destination — has essentially brought free agency to college football, and the Huskies will use that resource to fill holes on their roster. This offseason is a good example. UW has welcomed five transfers — quarterback Patrick O’Brien, defensive back Brendan Radley-Hiles, outside linebacker Jeremiah Martin and wide receivers Ja’Lynn Polk and Giles Jackson — and each addition served a specific purpose.

In the wake of Laiatu Latu’s medical retirement, UW added Martin. After five Washington wideouts transferred elsewhere, UW added Polk and Jackson. After two quarterbacks transferred, too, UW added O’Brien. After Elijah Molden left for the draft, UW added Radley-Hiles.


It’s inevitable that some high-school signees won’t pan out, and others will transfer. When that happens, the Huskies will address their weaknesses in the transfer portal. It giveth, and it taketh away.

Q: If you had to choose one current Dawg to be your partner in a tag-team wrestling match, who ya got? — Michael

A: Thank you, Michael, for this very important question.

(I promise, though our names are identical and I’m an admitted wrestling fan, that I did not submit this question.)

It’s tempting to choose a high-flyer who could dazzle audiences with explosive moves off the top rope — say, a 450 splash or a shooting star press or maybe even a take on Pac’s “Black Arrow” — while also providing the stamina to carry our team in a 60-minute Iron Man match. If I were to go in this direction, Kyler Gordon would be the obvious choice.

Before he was a 6-0, 190-pound defensive back at UW, a preteen Gordon dabbled in both kung fu and competitive dance — being named “Mr. Spotlight” at the Spotlight Dance Cup national finals in California. He brings natural showmanship and a background in martial arts, not to mention a 42.5-inch vertical jump.

So, in other words, he has all the tools to be a frog-splashing, drop-kicking tag-team wrestler.


But, to go along with my mic skills, I’m going to need more muscle. Which is why I’m choosing 6-6, 365-pound junior offensive lineman Ulumoo “M.J.” Ale.

Imagine Ale charging full speed to crush your puny neck with a clothesline in the corner. Imagine Ale executing a picture-perfect leg drop, a la Hulk Hogan, to squash someone’s skull. Imagine Ale climbing to the top rope, as the crowd comes to life, before summoning merciless gravity with a tsunami-like splash.

Now that I think of it, why not remove myself from the equation altogether? The Husky tag team of Gordon and Ale may be too good to pass up.


Q: Who’s the sixth and seventh offensive lineman into the game? — Zach Beal

A: Let me give you three: senior Corey Luciano, junior Matteo Mele and sophomore Nate Kalepo.

The 6-4, 290-pound Luciano operated often as an extra offensive tackle last season and has the flexibility to play just about any offensive-line position. Mele, likewise, made his first career start at center against Arizona in 2019 and played with the starters at right tackle last week while Victor Curne sat out scrimmage drills because of what appeared to be a minor injury.

A 6-6, 340-pound sophomore, Kalepo is a physically massive athlete who actually played with the starters at left guard ahead of Ale on Wednesday (though Ale returned to the first team this weekend).

All things considered UW is fortunate to bring back its entire starting offensive line: left tackle Jaxson Kirkland, left guard Ale, center Luke Wattenberg, right guard Henry Bainivalu and right tackle Victor Curne. But position coach Scott Huff has developed more than five game-ready maulers, many of whom are capable of lining up at multiple positions as well.

Q: If you were to assemble a 4×100 team for offense and defense, who would be your eight picks? — reignGod

A: So basically, we’re looking for the four players on offense and defense with the most elite straight-line speed.

In no particular order, here are my answers.

Offense: Jalen McMillan, Rome Odunze, Cameron Davis and Giles Jackson
Defense: Kyler Gordon, Trent McDuffie, Makell Esteen and Dyson McCutcheon
Give the edge to the offense.

Re: Is it me or is this the buzz kill piece of the year

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:21 pm
by Michael K.
Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:02 pm
I know you don't like Browning and refuse to acknowledge that his stats were actually very good, but Morris is no where near the QB that Browning was. He had a lower completion percentage and a lower QB Rating than Browning did as a Freshman. Also if you project his stats out, he would have had about 300 less yards and 4 fewer Touchdowns than Browning did as a Freshman. Also Browning was a true freshman while Morris red shirted.
It isn't that I didn't like Browning, I believe that the offense was run horribly by Smith when he was here without Tedford and I think that Jake Browning was very bad at one very important thing...understanding his limitations. That being said, he was not given the kind of help he needed. Yes, Ross was a stud, but the offense as a whole was light years better in the one year Tedford was here to hold Smith's hand. Pete's insistence on hiring guys with no experience to run the offense was frustrating as Hell. Jake got no help.

The fact that he went to one pre draft camp and in one day had a coach tell him he needs to start using his legs when he throws to add velocity was flat out embarrassing. How in the Hell can guys that watch him every day for four years not realize he isn't incorporating his core and legs when he throws, but it is picked up in one day at a camp?

I accepted Jake for what he was, a flawed QB that didn't exactly understand his flaws, but one that was grossly mismanaged by the adults that were supposed to help him succeed.