You're conflating "government" with order and collaboration.gil wrote: ↑Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:57 pmI see the positive side of government in my years as both an employee and a business owner. Government assures that I received my salary when I worked at a large corporation and at a small startup. Government assures the quality of products I buy. Government provides the transportation infrastructure to move goods and people that I need to conduct business. In general, I can enter into contracts knowing that if I fulfill my commitments, the other party will have to fulfill theirs. When I have made investments (property, machines) government protects my ownership both my making theft a crime and providing regulations for insurance of these investments.
And when I have created wealth, government insures (literally) my savings, and creates the rules so that I understand the potential risks and rewards of my investments.
But wait, you say, all these things can be handled better without government. That is your position, right? People freely entering into agreements can do a better job than government. To me, that sounds a lot like Haiti, or Dominica, or rural Jamaica. Yes, you can own a house, but only as long as your neighbors say it is yours. If they don't like you, *poof* goes your investment and your wealth. Is that what you are advocating? That I just hire private security to settle disputes, keep my money buried in my back yard, and build my own roads?
You don't need a criminal extortion racket to assure the quality of products and services. What you need is a free market. It's all based around TRUST. And if you trust the government, then you're a fool. In a free market, reputation ant trust are everything. In a regulated market, it's more about POWER AND POLITICS AND FORCE AND EVIL.
There is no magical secret sauce called "government" that changes human nature. Nobody is ever going to go through the trouble go gain power over you and then help you.
Natural Law. Objective morality. Stop supporting a criminal debt slavery exortion racket war machine pedophile death cult. Stop waving the flag like an obedient slave. change your avatar.
Anarchy is 100% contract law where both parties consent to the terms. It's the absence of immoral statutory law that is forced on people without their consent. Contract law is the only valid form of law.
Government does absolutely zero to preserve your wealth, they do just the opposite by taxing everyone to death at every turn.... all immoral... all illegitimate... all theft. They also FORCE you to pay taxes using their "legal tender" central bank monopoly money. If I print fake money and give it to my friends, then I go to prison for life. But, if the ruling class does it, then it's for the greater good. It's K-12 zombie talk.
Private property rights are the backbone of voluntaryist principles.
You must realize that humans largely want justice and peace. They largely avoid confrontation. What I am trying to get people to recognize is that "government" itself is organized crime. Nobody has any authority to take your money and go spend it however they want. The only valid laws are contract laws where both parties agree to the terms.
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In terms of what I am advocation for...
I am advocating for NOTHING TO HAPPEN TO YOU if you choose not to fund things that I want funded. If you want to smoke a plant or gamble I advocate for ZERO AMOUNTS OF FORCE to be used against you. I am an advocate of peace, love, and anarchy. I am advocating for all collaboration to be done on a voluntary basis, because that's the only way that's legitimate and moral. It's actually very simple. But, we are indoctrinated in K-12 prisons for kids and we end up waving the flag and spewing all this nonsense as if it's all perfectly legitimate and normal for the central banks and governments to implement a system of slavery and control everyone like livestock.
