2024 Election.

[bpj]

Here's a guardian piece on it if you want to bother, calling him a hypocrite. I'm not concerned, I don't use X or whatever it is, but I don't see musk as a Free speech savior, he seems pretty thin skinned actually. The guardian just left X, Musk didn't seem to mind. The current issue seems to be him using X to promote Trump

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... ree-speech

From the piece, as expected:

The only thing all the accounts had in common was they had been critical of Israel’s war in Gaza.

[Donn Beach]

Which means what? Musk has stated support for the war

After touring the decimated kibbutz of Kfar Aza with Netanyahu, Musk said in a conversation with the prime minister on X Spaces that it was “jarring to see the scene of the massacre” and that Israel has “no choice” but to eliminate Hamas

[bpj]

Which means what? Musk has stated support for the war

After touring the decimated kibbutz of Kfar Aza with Netanyahu, Musk said in a conversation with the prime minister on X Spaces that it was “jarring to see the scene of the massacre” and that Israel has “no choice” but to eliminate Hamas

If you read my post before, they're censoring "antisemitism" on X, which is basically anything critical of Israel, which is what the article says the journalists were suspended for.

[Donn Beach]

Oh you're blaming his manager, sure Musk can't be making decisions on every account to ban, he's running huge corporations. But he's responsible for the policy. They can't have a policy of banning antisemitic posts without Musk being aware of it. That was the point of his trip to Israel, to make up for what was a construed as an antisemitic post from him. He's going to be very sensitive about such things

[bpj]

Oh you're blaming his manager, sure Musk can't be making decisions on every account to ban, he's running huge corporations. But he's responsible for the policy. They can't have a policy of banning antisemitic posts without Musk being aware of it. That was the point of his trip to Israel, to make up for what was a construed as an antisemitic post from him. He's going to be very sensitive about such things

Pretty much.

It's the one thing people can't do on X now.

I know what it means.

Still waiting for others to get it.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Oh you're blaming his manager, sure Musk can't be making decisions on every account to ban, he's running huge corporations. But he's responsible for the policy. They can't have a policy of banning antisemitic posts without Musk being aware of it. That was the point of his trip to Israel, to make up for what was a construed as an antisemitic post from him. He's going to be very sensitive about such things

Pretty much.

It's the one thing people can't do on X now.

I know what it means.

Still waiting for others to get it.

An I am all in on allowing hate speech....why, because it's still freedom of speech.....hate isn't illegal....and racism isn't illegal.
It's all horrible, but I don't believe there is anyone alive that is smart enough to draw the line in the sand on what is hate speech, racism or any other distasteful speech.

[bpj]

Oh you're blaming his manager, sure Musk can't be making decisions on every account to ban, he's running huge corporations. But he's responsible for the policy. They can't have a policy of banning antisemitic posts without Musk being aware of it. That was the point of his trip to Israel, to make up for what was a construed as an antisemitic post from him. He's going to be very sensitive about such things

Pretty much.

It's the one thing people can't do on X now.

I know what it means.

Still waiting for others to get it.

An I am all in on allowing hate speech....why, because it's still freedom of speech.....hate isn't illegal....and racism isn't illegal.
It's all horrible, but I don't believe there is anyone alive that is smart enough to draw the line in the sand on what is hate speech, racism or any other distasteful speech.

I agree, especially when you're talking in general and not attacking a person.

It shouldn't be against the rules to say that "Jews" control the media and government, any more than it should be against the rules to say that blacks commit a disproportionate percentage of the overall crime.

Both are true, even if it brings attention to something they don't want to acknowledge. That doesn't make it "hate speech". And even if it did, that's not illegal.

They can suck it up.

[Donn Beach]

Sure if you're running a 4chan type site or something, let'er rip. But X isnt that type of site. Musk needs advertising to be successful and he needs to be successful because he has investors to answer to. Advertisers are going to be sensitive to what their products are attached to. I would assume they are pretty timid about it. There's no law that requires them to support his site. The thing seems odd to me. How aggressively he went about the changes, and then telling advertisers to fuck off when they pulled back, blaming them for his poor performance

[bpj]

Sure if you're running a 4chan type site or something, let'er rip. But X isnt that type of site. Musk needs advertising to be successful and he needs to be successful because he has investors to answer to. Advertisers are going to be sensitive to what their products are attached to. I would assume they are pretty timid about it. There's no law that requires them to support his site. The thing seems odd to me. How aggressively he went about the changes, and then telling advertisers to fuck off when they pulled back, blaming them for his poor performance

X is in much better position to offer unrestricted free speech than any other imo.

If you're charging people for their accounts, the advertisers can eat sh!t.

Wasn't that the point of charging $8/mo?

According to Grok, X has 10million monthly subscribers who pay either $8 or $16 per month.

At $8 per month, X is bringing in approximately $1B per year in revenues.

According to Grok, the average advertising revenues per year since 2015 have been $3.39B.

So they can afford a 30% drop in advertising right off the top thanks to subscriptions. Not to mention he trimmed the workforce by 80%.

[bpj]

It does cut both ways, so there's nothing particularly special about Musk bringing freedom of speech to Twitter, it's more about deciding what speech you want to listen to. He wants to do it with CNN then go for it, the issue is can he make money at it. So far he hasn't with the Twitter purchase, believe me, that's what it's about. The election probably helps him out

It's not about deciding what speech you want to listen to when they shut down one side of the conversation.

They can't control X now and their narrative gets exposed immediately.

Surely even a lib can understand that.