Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Should Obama be Prosecuted for Manufacturing this Hoax?

1. Yes, if true.
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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by gil » Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:34 pm

ddraig wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:07 pm
gil wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:46 am
ddraig wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:36 pm


The information they were "given" came from the DOJ with both FBI and CIA supplying the info. Both organizations are/were compromised. And those "bipartisan" committees were installed with hand picked "Republicans with axes to grind while other, more moderate Republicans, were kicked out of the committees. And what of the "evidence" that Adam Schiff had that was going to be shown to us? Easy enough to prove that Trump was guilty of "Russian Collusion," but no one had any evidence! So, no evidence and prejudiced jury.
What committee are you referring to? The House January 6 committee? I thought that was pretty bad in a number of ways.

I'm referring to the Senate Select Committee where each party's leadership selects the members, and the majority party (in this case, Republicans) selects the chair. Schiff (I'm not a fan, although that doesn't matter for this conversation) was not a senator at the time, much less a member.

Let's not lose the plot. Gabbard said that Obama had been behind the Russia interferes with elections investigations, right? Does she have something that Durham didn't come up with? (as special counsel, Durham was charged by AG Bill Barr to investigate the origins of the Russia investigation.) Does Gabbard have something that the Republicans on the the Senate and House committees, plus all the staff for all this members, didn't comneup with? I'm genuinely interested in seeing what it is.
Ah, bait and switch! The typical method of denying what you i=originally posted. You were the one to bring up the House and Senate Committees. And now you throw in a third? And just how "bipartisan" were these hearings when the Dems refused the credentials of a number of Republicans on that committee? Oh, and have you seen Adam Schiff's "evidence" of Trump's malfeasance yet? Last I heard, Trump gave Pelosi the means to call in the National Guard. But she never did!
If you are referring to the January 6 committee (the once that Liz Cheney co-chaired) I agree. Not bipartisan in any meaningful way. But that committee wasn't looking at "Russia" and the 2016 election, was it?

I'm not denying what I originally posted: What Gabbard has said "is inconsistent with the findings of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2020) and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (2018).

And the Durham special counsel investigation looked into the origins of the FBI investigation, didn't it? And found nothing like what Gabbard is claiming, as I recall."

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:58 pm

So, you are saying that you "trust the government?"
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Come on Gil. You have always seemed like an intelligent guy.

I don't have that ability to trust the government. Not when they have lied about 90% of things since 9/11.... and that is not meant to say that I agree with crazy PB&J's opinion on 9/11.

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:29 am

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:58 pm
So, you are saying that you "trust the government?"
:roll:

Come on Gil. You have always seemed like an intelligent guy.

I don't have that ability to trust the government. Not when they have lied about 90% of things since 9/11.... and that is not meant to say that I agree with crazy PB&J's opinion on 9/11.
Yeah, theyve lied about 90% of things since, but 9-11 was totally one of the things they told the truth about though.

Do you hear yourself? Lol.

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:44 am

They need to start arresting people or the country's done for imo.

Do we have two tiers of justice or not...

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:57 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:44 am
They need to start arresting people or the country's done for imo.

Do we have two tiers of justice or not...
Someone has to have the balls to do it.
Hope Trump is not one of the Cabal.

Which raises another question for you fellow concerned citizens....Is Trump an "Operation" or just a business man that got lucky???
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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by gil » Wed Jul 23, 2025 2:15 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:58 pm
So, you are saying that you "trust the government?"
:roll:

Come on Gil. You have always seemed like an intelligent guy.

I don't have that ability to trust the government. Not when they have lied about 90% of things since 9/11.... and that is not meant to say that I agree with crazy PB&J's opinion on 9/11.
A generalization like "do I trust the government" is NOT the point here. Let's stick to the specifics.

When Durham was appointed special counsel by Trump's AG Bill Barr to investigate the origins of the the FBI's Russia investigation, he had years of time and millions in funding to find evidence that the Russia investigation started with Obama weaponizing the intelligence agencies. He did not find that.

When every senator on the select committee on intelligence - both majority republicans and minority democrats - signed off on the report about Russia interference in the 2016 election, I pretty much trust their conclusions. The republicans and their staffs had all the opportunity in the world to present a different story, and they did not. They concluded that Russia tried to influence the election. They didn't say any votes were changed by Russia. They didn't say there was collusion. They thought the Steele dossier was a pile of shit (as do I). What the did say was:
In 2015, Russia began engaging in a covert influence campaign aimed at the U.S. presidential election. The Russia government, at the direction of President Vladimir Putin, sought to sow discord in American society and undermine our faith in the democratic process.
I'd say that worked out pretty well for Putin, right?. I hate what we have become in this country: so much hatred and distrust of "the other side."

Now Gabbard comes along and says she has evidence that implicates Obama, that she has evidence that Republican senators and Bill Barr's special counsel did not find. Do I trust that? No, I'm skeptical because of all of the above. But I'm interested in seeing where it leads.

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by Mel Bradford » Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:28 am

Yes, three and a half years to make things right. Way to go, Tulsi, Pete and Kash and company. Leave no stone unturned.
Obama is and has always been a disgrace. Weaponizing the fed and living elitist immunity. Not for long.

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by ddraig » Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:05 am

bpj wrote:
Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:44 am
They need to start arresting people or the country's done for imo.

Do we have two tiers of justice or not...
We're damned if they arrest, convict, and jail anyone. And we're damned if we don't. The Country has been broken and the Dims will now know how to break it permanently if they ever get in power again. Conversely, an unscrupulous Republican can do the same. Obama promised "Hope and Change." He certainly brought change and hope to the socialist/communists among us.

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Re: Obama Behind "Russia Collusion" Hoax

Post by Mel Bradford » Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:26 pm

Obama ......dirty, dirty, dirty......and Brennen, Clapper, Comey, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hz918rfgTk

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