Hamas Attack in Israel

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by bpj » Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:52 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:29 am
And it is 99.9999999% Hamas' fault. And who elected and supported Hamas by the way? Innocent civilians my ass. One side targets women and children and the other targets genocidal maniacs who hide behind and amongst women and children. But there's no difference in the minds of the ignorant.
Hamas are terrorists. Who elected and supported them? Netanyahu and the US, that's who.

Are you saying there are no innocent Palestinians? If not, why do they hate Israel so much? Are they Nazis? Or are they tired of being under Israel's control?

I've heard more than 50% of Palestinians were under the age of voting when Hamas was elected in 2006. That true?

I'm an American, does that make me a Joe Biden supporter? Ridiculous.

Sounds like there's only one side that's choosing to be ignorant of what's actually happening.

Same crowd that would leap to Israel's defense regardless of what happened. Seems to be mostly Christians that think the state of Israel is "God's chosen people" that have no idea what Israel actually does.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by bpj » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:03 am

gil wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:56 pm
Representative Rhashida Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan and the first Palestinian-American to serve in Congress was censured by the House of Representatives for comments seen as being critical of Israel and possibly antisemitic. Republicans voted 212-4 to censure her. 22 Democrats joined the Republican majority in favor of censure.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house- ... l-comments
Any guesses how many of those 22 are on AIPAC's donation list?

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/ ... il=S&mem=Y

Obviously, it's a bipartisan problem.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:14 pm

bpj wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:03 am
gil wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:56 pm
Representative Rhashida Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan and the first Palestinian-American to serve in Congress was censured by the House of Representatives for comments seen as being critical of Israel and possibly antisemitic. Republicans voted 212-4 to censure her. 22 Democrats joined the Republican majority in favor of censure.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house- ... l-comments
Any guesses how many of those 22 are on AIPAC's donation list?

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/ ... il=S&mem=Y

Obviously, it's a bipartisan problem.
AIPAC was the top donor to new House Speaker, Mike Johnson (in the 2022 cycle).

AOC is no fan of AIPAC.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by bpj » Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:29 pm

gil wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:14 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:03 am
gil wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:56 pm
Representative Rhashida Tlaib, Democrat of Michigan and the first Palestinian-American to serve in Congress was censured by the House of Representatives for comments seen as being critical of Israel and possibly antisemitic. Republicans voted 212-4 to censure her. 22 Democrats joined the Republican majority in favor of censure.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house- ... l-comments
Any guesses how many of those 22 are on AIPAC's donation list?

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/ ... il=S&mem=Y

Obviously, it's a bipartisan problem.
AIPAC was the top donor to new House Speaker, Mike Johnson (in the 2022 cycle).

AOC is no fan of AIPAC.
And he hopped right on board with funding Israel with $14B, like a good little lapdog.

I have a feeling Johnson will just be another Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Ronna McDaniel, sheep in wolf's clothing type.

No way Johnson gets approved so quickly if they didn't have control of him, imo.

The one thing the squad has been right about, is who the actual enemy is.

I don't think they have a quarrel with Jews, they are fighting against Zionist Israel.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by ddraig » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:11 pm

Hey, bpj. Don't you think your avatar is a bit anti-Jewish?

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by Mel Bradford » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:23 pm

In terms of foreign policy the best advice we ever received was from George Washington in his Farewell Address:

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world."

Alliances breed favoritism. Favoritism breeds resentment. And voila, we are forced to manage the monster we created. And look at us today. A list of national ills to lengthy to enumerate with a direct correlation to our "invite the world/ invade the world/ bankroll the world" mistake.

My Christian brothers have an understandable but wrong loyalty to Israel. The word of God clearly spells out his plan for his Jewish remnant. And He does not need our help. He will fulfill his promise to Jacob.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:49 pm

Imagine how different things would be for us if we were neutral in 1945 or advocated for a Jewish state somewhere in Europe instead. There would literally be no such thing as Islamic terrorism against us.
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:49 pm
Imagine how different things would be for us if we were neutral in 1945 or advocated for a Jewish state somewhere in Europe instead. There would literally be no such thing as Islamic terrorism against us.
There is also the issue of oil, which led to US military presence in Saudi Arabia. Bid Laden cited that (along with US support for Israel) and said (before 9/11) that Muslims should kill Americans in Saudi Arabia.

https://ctc.westpoint.edu/harmony-progr ... anguage-2/

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:02 pm

bpj wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:04 am
US Marine Corps Officer Scott Ritter Reveals Truth About Israel War:

https://youtu.be/YV_HsiJg8Io?si=FwC1r9b7cLdgZf8h
If this is "the truth" I sure wish there were a better messenger than Scott Ritter. I mean, he writes for RT.com, the Russian state-owned site and a purveyor of propaganda. (If you don't know about RT, it's a great source of pro-Russia talking points, if that is your thing. Classic effective propaganda. Sounds reasonable and intelligent with just enough truth to suck you in. Then distorts the big stuff.)

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:43 pm

gil wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:49 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:49 pm
Imagine how different things would be for us if we were neutral in 1945 or advocated for a Jewish state somewhere in Europe instead. There would literally be no such thing as Islamic terrorism against us.
There is also the issue of oil, which led to US military presence in Saudi Arabia. Bid Laden cited that (along with US support for Israel) and said (before 9/11) that Muslims should kill Americans in Saudi Arabia.

https://ctc.westpoint.edu/harmony-progr ... anguage-2/
Maybe but probably 99% due to supporting Israel.
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