Wildfires in CA

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

No, I'm arguing that there's no evidence to the rumor that homeless people started the fires in Los Angeles that you blindly adhered to. It was a malicious rumor started by right-wing propogandists on social media.

But please, dishonestly pivot some more.

Pivot more?

Are you having trouble with comprehension again?

DT was the one that said the homeless were the cause of the fire, NOT ME. I just said that the homeless are a gift that keeps on giving.

You are such a dumbass.

Why the fuck would you say that if you weren't agreeing with the premise?

THE HOMELESS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WILDFIRES UNTIL AN INVESTIGATION PROVES THEY CAUSED IT.

Like is this really that hard for you people?

RE: your other post... Great... homeless people start fires. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE STARTED THIS FIRE. Until there is proof, shut the fuck up and stop scapegoating.

So, you admit that you are making assumption to attack me.

Class act.

Just so you know, most homeless people are drug-addled simple minded fucktards that deserve to be homeless. There are plenty of facilities to help people that don't want to be homeless.

I know this because I have worked with both shelters, and had to deal with the homeless problem.....first hand.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Police have identified the suspect as 39-year-old Jose Carranza-Escobar, "a transient" whose last known address was also in Azusa. They said he admitted to starting the brush fire.

Can anyone define what a "TRANSIENT" is?
Yes, that is a question to you, SOB!!

You know, I wouldn't have minded you questioning what I meant by saying that the homeless are a gift that keeps on giving, but the attacks need to stop.

[ddraig]

The majority on that list lost their homes.

[ddraig]

"I saw all of that, but I didn't read/hear that any of them were complaining about losing their homes. They were merely sharing updates and were thankful to have survived. But some have complained about the lack of preparedness and foresight on the part of city officials and government."

Just go out to any major website and type in "Celebrities who lost their homes in the California fires." Just on the first page are 9 reports if the Celebrities who have lost their homes. More pages after that. I'm not adoring celebrities, but they are people, citizens of the U.S. Multiply their numbers by hundreds and you end up with thousands of other wealthy citizens. Likely most of them make more money in a month than we do on this forum in a year! All it takes is a little minor digging. Sounds like it may be too much trouble for you to do!

[Seattle or Bust]

Police have identified the suspect as 39-year-old Jose Carranza-Escobar, "a transient" whose last known address was also in Azusa. They said he admitted to starting the brush fire.

Can anyone define what a "TRANSIENT" is?
Yes, that is a question to you, SOB!!

You know, I wouldn't have minded you questioning what I meant by saying that the homeless are a gift that keeps on giving, but the attacks need to stop.

He started a fire that they quickly put out.

Again, you really are struggling with this concept. Just b/c a homeless person started a fire somewhere... DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE FIRES BURNING IN LOS ANGELES WERE STARTED BY A HOMELESS PERSON.

Do you know who the most notorious arsonist in the history of California was? A man who set 2,000 fires over 30 years?

John Leonard Orr.

Do you know what his job was?

A FIRE CAPTAIN AND ARSON INVESTIGATOR.

What are people postulating is the cause of the recent fires? Faulty power lines and wind... "Since 1992, more than 3,600 wildfires in California have been related to power generation, transmission and distribution, according to data from the U.S. Forest Service. Some of the most destructive fires have been traced back to problems with utility poles and power lines." Another fire is believed to have possibly been started by fireworks... they put out the fire but there is a chance that it re-ignited.

"But was it a result of arson? Four experts interviewed by NBC News said it was a possibility, but they thought the fires were more likely not set on purpose." “This is what we call inaccessible, rugged terrain,” said Rick Crawford, former battalion chief for the Los Angeles Fire Department. “Arsonists usually aren’t going to go 500 feet off a trailhead through trees and brush, set a fire and then run away.”

I don't know why it is so easy for all of you to postulate that the fires were caused by a demographic that you hate, when you truly have no idea what caused these fires. You all are so quick to jump on the hate wagon whenever anything happens. And your description of homeless people and their problems just highlights the lack of empathy you have for people who have suffered immense challenges to get to the point they're at. It's sad.

Oh wait... now I get it... "Fox News Host Jesse Watters says 'there’s a good chance the homeless started' the California fires." 1/9/2025.

When the terror attacks happened in NO a few weeks ago, Fox News and conservatives quickly jumped on the narrative that the attacker was an illegal immigrant who made his way to NO by illegally crossing the border. Turns out it was an American citizen, former military member, who had been radicalized by ISIS. Yet all the early conservative reporting was all border related attacking the Biden administration. Trump falsely Tweeted that the attacks were the fault of illegal immigration/open borders and per usual, never corrected himself.

Funny to be against the skilled immigrants, but more than happy to let the terrorists and drug runners walk across the border.

Bunch of lib clowns.

Look who was fooled... shocker.

[douche]

Just go out to any major website and type in "Celebrities who lost their homes in the California fires." Just on the first page are 9 reports if the Celebrities who have lost their homes. More pages after that. I'm not adoring celebrities, but they are people, citizens of the U.S. Multiply their numbers by hundreds and you end up with thousands of other wealthy citizens. Likely most of them make more money in a month than we do on this forum in a year! All it takes is a little minor digging. Sounds like it may be too much trouble for you to do!

I think you misunderstand me. Yes, some celebrities lost their homes. I don't dispute that. What I'm saying is that I haven't heard them complaining about losing their homes, but I have heard some of them complaining that not enough was done to mitigate the risk. That's my point.

As you mentioned yourself,

"And yet Bass cut Fire services by $17.6 million and did not refill the Palisades reservoir. And Newsom cut state Fire services to the tune of $100 million. Yes, if I read it on multiple sites like CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. I tend to take it for their words."

[Donn Beach]

Know who's notorious for starting fires, firemen. We Don't however view all firemen as arsonists

[bpj]

Yeah, no chance the homeless illegal started any fires they didn't catch him for.

Call me crazy, but I'd consider the fire starting illegal a terrorist.

[Donn Beach]

Would depend on the motivation, depending on the type of arson it's often mental issues. Supposedly around 100 firemen s year are convicted of arson, some of those might be seen as acts of terrorism

[bpj]

Would depend on the motivation, depending on the type of arson it's often mental issues. Supposedly around 100 firemen s year are convicted of arson, some of those might be seen as acts of terrorism

Maybe we can have a psychiatrist weigh in on what Sigmund Freud would say...

Buncha quacks.