Another assassination attempt

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Re: Another assassination attempt

Post by gil » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:32 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:33 pm
gil wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:20 pm
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Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:43 pm


Not insulting half the country like Hillary calling Trump voters the deplorables???

Or they constantly saying MAGA voters and Trump are a threat to democracy?

You people are delusional.
That was stupid and untrue of Hillary to say. If she has been in primary season saying that, she would have been shit-canned.

Trying to overturn an election = a treat to democracy? I can see the argument, although I have never called Trump that.
Trying to get election audits isn't "overturning an election".

The libs fought audits because they cheated. Otherwise there's no reason to be against audits.
Trying to get election audits isn't "overturning an election".
Agree completely. If that is all that Trump did, I would support it 100%. I don't support putting forth slates of electors who were NOT those chosen by a vote of the people. I don't support running with marginal theories about the role of state legislatures in presidential elections. And I don't support crazy unproven (and probably mostly disproven theories) about ballot box stuff, dead people voting, rigged voting machines, etc.

The Arizona audit by Cyberchimps didn't find much, did it? (other than few extra votes for Biden). THatis what you mean by an audit, right?

Didn't Georgia do a hand recount? Or do you think they should have done more? The Republican Governor said the election was fair, even tHough his preferred candidate did not win. Trump has never been man enough to say the same.

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Re: Another assassination attempt

Post by bpj » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:59 pm

gil wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:32 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:33 pm
gil wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:20 pm


That was stupid and untrue of Hillary to say. If she has been in primary season saying that, she would have been shit-canned.

Trying to overturn an election = a treat to democracy? I can see the argument, although I have never called Trump that.
Trying to get election audits isn't "overturning an election".

The libs fought audits because they cheated. Otherwise there's no reason to be against audits.
Trying to get election audits isn't "overturning an election".
Agree completely. If that is all that Trump did, I would support it 100%. I don't support putting forth slates of electors who were NOT those chosen by a vote of the people. I don't support running with marginal theories about the role of state legislatures in presidential elections. And I don't support crazy unproven (and probably mostly disproven theories) about ballot box stuff, dead people voting, rigged voting machines, etc.

The Arizona audit by Cyberchimps didn't find much, did it? (other than few extra votes for Biden). THatis what you mean by an audit, right?

Didn't Georgia do a hand recount? Or do you think they should have done more? The Republican Governor said the election was fair, even tHough his preferred candidate did not win. Trump has never been man enough to say the same.
Alternate electors are a legal means when suspecting fraud in states.

Nixon and John Kerry also considered using alternate electors.

A recount isn't an audit. Do you understand that?

Illegal votes would just be counted the same a second time. An audit does things like verify signatures on mailing envelopes match what's on file, etc.

We all watched those fat bitches pull cases out from under the table and run them through the machines after they sent everyone else home in Georgia. Then Biden gave those same fat bitches medals. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

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Re: Another assassination attempt

Post by gil » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:15 pm

bpj wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:59 pm
gil wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:32 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:33 pm


Trying to get election audits isn't "overturning an election".

The libs fought audits because they cheated. Otherwise there's no reason to be against audits.
Trying to get election audits isn't "overturning an election".
Agree completely. If that is all that Trump did, I would support it 100%. I don't support putting forth slates of electors who were NOT those chosen by a vote of the people. I don't support running with marginal theories about the role of state legislatures in presidential elections. And I don't support crazy unproven (and probably mostly disproven theories) about ballot box stuff, dead people voting, rigged voting machines, etc.

The Arizona audit by Cyberchimps didn't find much, did it? (other than few extra votes for Biden). THatis what you mean by an audit, right?

Didn't Georgia do a hand recount? Or do you think they should have done more? The Republican Governor said the election was fair, even tHough his preferred candidate did not win. Trump has never been man enough to say the same.
Alternate electors are a legal means when suspecting fraud in states.

Nixon and John Kerry also considered using alternate electors.

A recount isn't an audit. Do you understand that?

Illegal votes would just be counted the same a second time. An audit does things like verify signatures on mailing envelopes match what's on file, etc.

We all watched those fat bitches pull cases out from under the table and run them through the machines after they sent everyone else home in Georgia. Then Biden gave those same fat bitches medals. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.
OK, so other than Arizona, were there audits? If not, why not? I'm frustrated by people saying the same stuff almost 4 years later, when I haven't seen ANY proof that supports claims of fraud. "We all watched" is not proof. Other people have other explanations. And you do know that Rudy G. was found liable for defamation for making the claims that you are repeating, right?

If you were in charge of things (i.e., assuring fair elections), what would you do?

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Re: Another assassination attempt

Post by bpj » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:20 pm

gil wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:15 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:59 pm
gil wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:32 pm


Agree completely. If that is all that Trump did, I would support it 100%. I don't support putting forth slates of electors who were NOT those chosen by a vote of the people. I don't support running with marginal theories about the role of state legislatures in presidential elections. And I don't support crazy unproven (and probably mostly disproven theories) about ballot box stuff, dead people voting, rigged voting machines, etc.

The Arizona audit by Cyberchimps didn't find much, did it? (other than few extra votes for Biden). THatis what you mean by an audit, right?

Didn't Georgia do a hand recount? Or do you think they should have done more? The Republican Governor said the election was fair, even tHough his preferred candidate did not win. Trump has never been man enough to say the same.
Alternate electors are a legal means when suspecting fraud in states.

Nixon and John Kerry also considered using alternate electors.

A recount isn't an audit. Do you understand that?

Illegal votes would just be counted the same a second time. An audit does things like verify signatures on mailing envelopes match what's on file, etc.

We all watched those fat bitches pull cases out from under the table and run them through the machines after they sent everyone else home in Georgia. Then Biden gave those same fat bitches medals. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.
OK, so other than Arizona, were there audits? If not, why not? I'm frustrated by people saying the same stuff almost 4 years later, when I haven't seen ANY proof that supports claims of fraud. "We all watched" is not proof. Other people have other explanations. And you do know that Rudy G. was found liable for defamation for making the claims that you are repeating, right?

If you were in charge of things (i.e., assuring fair elections), what would you do?
Rudy was "found liable for defamation" in the same way that "Trump sexually assaulted" that old hag that says rape is sexy.

In the same way they've used their corrupt prosecutors and judges to railroad their political opponents.

The libs fought audits. That's why they weren't done. Why would either side fight against audits?

Personally I like the idea of election day being a national holiday, with in-person, paper ballot voting only, with verifiable identification.

Then I think there should be immediate verification recounts, and audits for any requests and/or discrepancies.

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Re: Another assassination attempt

Post by gil » Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:00 pm

bpj wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:20 pm
gil wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:15 pm
bpj wrote:
Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:59 pm


Alternate electors are a legal means when suspecting fraud in states.

Nixon and John Kerry also considered using alternate electors.

A recount isn't an audit. Do you understand that?

Illegal votes would just be counted the same a second time. An audit does things like verify signatures on mailing envelopes match what's on file, etc.

We all watched those fat bitches pull cases out from under the table and run them through the machines after they sent everyone else home in Georgia. Then Biden gave those same fat bitches medals. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.
OK, so other than Arizona, were there audits? If not, why not? I'm frustrated by people saying the same stuff almost 4 years later, when I haven't seen ANY proof that supports claims of fraud. "We all watched" is not proof. Other people have other explanations. And you do know that Rudy G. was found liable for defamation for making the claims that you are repeating, right?

If you were in charge of things (i.e., assuring fair elections), what would you do?
Rudy was "found liable for defamation" in the same way that "Trump sexually assaulted" that old hag that says rape is sexy.

In the same way they've used their corrupt prosecutors and judges to railroad their political opponents.

The libs fought audits. That's why they weren't done. Why would either side fight against audits?

Personally I like the idea of election day being a national holiday, with in-person, paper ballot voting only, with verifiable identification.

Then I think there should be immediate verification recounts, and audits for any requests and/or discrepancies.
Sounds like a good plan.

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