Civil War is here.

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Post by acctingman » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:57 am

I'll admit I don't follow politics much (they're all self serving sleezebags) but as a human being Trump is pretty scummy (again, all politicians are to some degree). I wouldn't want to see him "eliminated" more for the reason that I do feel that it would escalate to riots and more death.

Again, I'm saying this from afar as I'm not as political savvy as many of you here seem to be, but I feel things are only going further down the shitter (no matter who gets elected).

It's just saddening across the board.

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Post by Mel Bradford » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:06 am

(IMO) Trump was already an enemy of the (deep) state in his 1990 Barbara Walters interview because he understood certain things about the liability and cost of getting and being elected to higher office and the alliances against those who did. He also understood the problems facing us nationally. By 2010 the businessman entered the political arena knowing enough to be a threat. 6 years later he stood athwart the Beast and it has been a battle royal ever since.

When Mayorkas turns a blind eye to 'homeland' security is it lack of competence, willful compromise with the mission of the law, or a collusion of unregenerate character with the force of evil ? When children are trafficked for all the myriad forms of exploitation, when drugs are smuggled at record levels, when criminals and so-called asylum seekers walk through the southern border at our economic, political and national peril is it a lack of competence, willful compromise with the mission of the law, or a collusion of unregenerate character with the force of evil ?

Is the attempted assassination a result of the lack of competence, a willful compromise with the mission of the law, or a collusion of unregenerate character with the force of evil ?

As for Gods intervention and/ or miracle I would not pretend to speak for God. At the same time thanking God for sparing Trumps life is completely of the faith. God acts of his own volition. He is not controlled by any man. He blesses those he blesses and curses those he curses. He is imminent and omnipresent at the same time. He hears every prayer that is spoken. And there is nothing secret from his knowing. He had a plan for the earth and civilization before it was even formed. He test those who believe in Him but does not temp. The prince of this world tempts. The final death sentence for the devil was pronounced and confirmed when Christ began his mission and died on the cross. There are no radical atoms in the universe. Everything is under His purview. He speaks to us through His Gospel. If you want to hear him speak....read it outloud. 66 books, 40 authors written over a period of 1500 years. The best seller of all time.

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Post by seattlefan-daBronx » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:07 am

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:48 pm

Ah I see we're going full conspiracy mode now...

By all accounts, Crooks was a Republican if not MAGA supporter. Who knows why he flipped his lid.

Kid hung out with the MAGA crowd at school and peers say he was clearly right leaning, dawned Trump signs, regularly visited gun ranges and ammo shops in the area, was a fan of Demo Ranch, wore hunting and military garb to school, registered Republican... the list goes on.

Why would a Civil War be started when the guy who assassinated the president was a Trump supporter who flipped out?

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Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:37 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:48 pm
Ah I see we're going full conspiracy mode now...

By all accounts, Crooks was a Republican if not MAGA supporter. Who knows why he flipped his lid.

Kid hung out with the MAGA crowd at school and peers say he was clearly right leaning, dawned Trump signs, regularly visited gun ranges and ammo shops in the area, was a fan of Demo Ranch, wore hunting and military garb to school, registered Republican... the list goes on.

Why would a Civil War be started when the guy who assassinated the president was a Trump supporter who flipped out?
I don't know where you get your news....MSNBC and CNN where they make shit up to fill air time most likely.

All I have heard is that he registered as a Republican.
And
Donated to a extremely left leaning group in Chicago the next year.

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Post by D-train » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:44 pm

I have heard that he Registered as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primary.
But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group.
I find it a bit more plausible that he tried to kill Trump because he was a donating liberal that hated him than because he was MAGA but suddenly got mad at Trump for no apparent reason.
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Post by Seattle or Bust » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:47 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:37 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:48 pm
Ah I see we're going full conspiracy mode now...

By all accounts, Crooks was a Republican if not MAGA supporter. Who knows why he flipped his lid.

Kid hung out with the MAGA crowd at school and peers say he was clearly right leaning, dawned Trump signs, regularly visited gun ranges and ammo shops in the area, was a fan of Demo Ranch, wore hunting and military garb to school, registered Republican... the list goes on.

Why would a Civil War be started when the guy who assassinated the president was a Trump supporter who flipped out?
I don't know where you get your news....MSNBC and CNN where they make shit up to fill air time most likely.

All I have heard is that he registered as a Republican.
And
Donated to a extremely left leaning group in Chicago the next year.
Well, you've already got a lot wrong.

He supposedly donated $15 to a liberal group that encourages voter turnout. He did this in 2020 at the age of 17 on Joe Biden's inauguration day through responding to an email about tuning into the inauguration. He then registered as a Republican in 2021 when he was legally able to vote. he then voted in the 2022 primaries.

So your sequence in timing is wrong and so is this information about Chicago.

News stations have interviewed his peers who all gave this information.

The father stated that his son asked to borrow his AR-15 and this wasn't abnormal because his father stated that Crooks OFTEN would ask to borrow guns to go down to the local shooting range.

The owner of the gun shop where the AR-15 was purchased stated that Crooks would regularly attend the shop and recently purchased the ammo used to carry out the attack.

He wore a Demolition Ranch t-shirt during the shooting... a picture was snapped of him at the rally and the shirt can also be seen as he lies dead.

His peers reported that he was right leaning, hung out with the kids in MAGA hats, and neighbors reported that his yard often dawned Trump signs.

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:44 pm
I have heard that he Registered as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primary.
But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group.
I find it a bit more plausible that he tried to kill Trump because he was a donating liberal that hated him than because he was MAGA but suddenly got mad at Trump for no apparent reason.
He registered as a Republican in 2021 to vote against Trump in the 2024 primary that he didn't actually vote in?

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Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:10 pm

Well, you've already got a lot wrong.
What exactly....... I said he registered as a rep and donated to a liberal group in Chicago.
Where was I wrong?
I thought you were the highly intelligent type who can comprehend what is written.
He supposedly donated $15 to a liberal group that encourages voter turnout.
When you/they say "to encourage voter turnout" do you mean ballot harvesting?
So your sequence in timing is wrong and so is this information about Chicago.
I never claimed a sequence of timing.
News stations have interviewed his peers who all gave this information.
And your news stations are so squeaky clean on what they report? LOL

Remember this headline?
"Trump taken off stage when he fell down"
The father stated that his son asked to borrow his AR-15 and this wasn't abnormal because his father stated that Crooks OFTEN would ask to borrow guns to go down to the local shooting range.

The owner of the gun shop where the AR-15 was purchased stated that Crooks would regularly attend the shop and recently purchased the ammo used to carry out the attack.

He wore a Demolition Ranch t-shirt during the shooting... a picture was snapped of him at the rally and the shirt can also be seen as he lies dead.

His peers reported that he was right leaning, hung out with the kids in MAGA hats, and neighbors reported that his yard often dawned Trump signs.
So what?

It seems you are the one making assumptions.

I don't give a rats ass if he was a Trump supporter or not. Maybe he was to start with but got influenced by the MSM. Nobody will know now.

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:13 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:44 pm
I have heard that he Registered as a Republican to vote against Trump in the primary.
But CNN interviews with more than a half-dozen former classmates and neighbors of Crooks painted him as quiet, with classmates remembering him as a good student and something of a misfit in high school. And a review of public records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a Democratic-leaning group.
I find it a bit more plausible that he tried to kill Trump because he was a donating liberal that hated him than because he was MAGA but suddenly got mad at Trump for no apparent reason.
A donating liberal? $15? You guys look at everything as political, he took a shot at Trump because he wanted to commit suicide, suicide by police. I honestly don't see the hard part, like Hinkley shooting Reagan

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