Who's off the board tally

[bpj]

Finally we can stop hearing the stupidity about signing Trevor Story.

[Pharmabro]

Starters
1. Verlander 2 years 50 million + 2nd is player option (Q.O>) Injury, but Ace Astros
1. Max Scherzer 3/130M Mets
1Aa Robbie Ray lefty SP 5/115 m with opt out after 3
1A Gausman 5/110 M BJs
1C Stroman 3/71M
1D Zack Greinke Royals 1/13M + incentives
2. Thor 1 X21M ( Q.O) Injury but a TOR history LAA
2A. Morton 1X20 Braves
2B Wainwright 1X17.5 Cards
2c Clayton Kershaw 1/17M with incentives
2d Rodon Giants 2/44M
3. Ed Rod 5 for 77-80M poorest ERA year but best metrics (Q.O.) DET
4A Gray 4/56M Rangers
4. Matz LHP 4/ 44 to 48M St.L
4a Chris Bassit A's to Mets a couple of non top 100 pitching prospects Jt Jinn 3 ERA and former 1st and 2nd Rd pick
4B Sonny Gray Twins/reds trade for a 1st round pick #26 in 2021, and a Dominican with a near 5 ERA 2017 start, made Aball
5. Anthony DeSclafani RHSP 3/36M SF
5A James Paxton 1X10 or 2 / 35M
6. Alex Wood sounds like 2 X 10+M/ year SF
7A Rich Hill Redsox 1year / ??M
7. Kluber 8M Rays
7b Kik 3/36m contract Blue Jays
8. Alex Cobb 105 career ERA+
9. Carlos Martinez injured last 2 years and sucked but 2019 he was a 133 ERA+ guy (6 year stretch of #1, or #2 performance)
9b Pineda 1/5,5M w incentives

BP
Aaron Loup a really good LHBP 2 or 3 X 7.5M with 2M buyout LAA
Graveman 3/ 24M RHBP Whitesox
Mark Melancon closer 2 /14M Az
Kenley Jensen 1/16M

POSITION PLAYERS
IF
1AA Corey Seager SS 10/325 Rangers
1A Marcus S. SS,2B 7years 175M Rangers
!AA> Carlos Fn Coreia 35M X 3 w opt outs after 1 and 2
1B Kris Bryant 3B Rockies 7/182 M
1B Freddie Freeman 1B LAD 6/162M 27M average
2. M's get OF/DH LH Jesse Winker 128 career OPS+, and SS-3B Eugeno Saurez 107 career OPS+ from Reds // Dunn, Fraley, and Brandon Williamson & PTBNL
2A Javier Baez SS, 2B. 3B Tigers 6/ 140M
@B Story SS 6/140M with optouts and options
2B Braves get OLSON for Cristian Pache, catcher Shea Langeliers right-handers Ryan Cusick and Joey Estes.
2B. Mitch Garver C/1B/DH 139 and a 157 OPS+ was traded for Isiah fn Kiner Falefa!
1. 1B Brandon Belt LHB, 1B, MVP level bat (Q.O. accepted 1X 18.4) SF
3B Josh Donaldson to Yanks for Gio, and Gary Sanchez
2A Taylor SS/2B/CF 4/64M exactly his projection
2. Eduardo Escobar2B, 3B, SS 2/ 20M (Mets)
3. ADAM FRAZIER TRADED RAY KERR 2B/OF
3a Rizzo ANthony Yanks 2/32M
3. CJ Cron 1B 2 /14.5M

OF
Castellanos Nick Phillies 5 /100M
Schwarber 4/79M Phillies
Starling Marte (4 years / 78 million) Mets
Avisal Garcia 4/53M
DH Nelson Cruz to the Nats 1X13M
Canha 2/26.5 Mets
Pederson 1/6M
Kole Calhoun 1X 5.2m

[Pharmabro]

Added Schwarber and Story and then there was only Conforto

[D-train]

I keep hearing JD saying they hit cul de sacs and dead ends with ALL of their FA targets. Do you think well run orgs. that want to win have ever said that or anything similar to that?

[rockycola]

Jerry's words may have been misspeak for FA targets and their agents reluctance and lack of desire to come to Seattle.

Cul de sacs and dead ends, my ass.

Our long, long, long failed history with poor play, ownership NEVER going all in, too many over-the-hill signings plus Indy League cast-offs welcomed here just might be huge turn-offs. Oh, those Indy-leaguers get hardons to be signed by any MLB team, for sure, however, have they ever gotten the M's over the top?

Yeah, we got lucky with Flexon. Surprise! Surprise! We got a little RRay of sunshine. But............never enough. Never on time. It's not all JD's fault.
This shit has gone on for 20 plus years and counting.
Last year was special because the team exceeded all expectations. No sneaking up on the rest of the league in 2022.
It's war and we need more missiles. Got some, not enough.

Maybe the pitching staff, as is, with Brash, Kirby excelling can do it. Maybe both Giles and Munoz are healthy and wonderful and are death to opposing batters. Maybe we'll overcome the loss of Sadler and lack of another pen lefty.

Maybe the offense catches fire and JK is Super JK and Juliooooo can't be denied and JP bitchslaps all of his naysayers.
Lot of maybes, right.

I'm saying that maybe there's a chance.........to succeed..........or crash and burn (but still turn a tidy profit for ownership).

See? Total success no matter what happens.

I declare 2022 a screaming success story!

[Coeurd’Alene J]

Billy Hamilton just came off the board....our new center fielder

[D-train]

Billy Hamilton just came off the board....our new center fielder

bpj will be very excited about his move. lol

[ddraig]

I keep hearing JD saying they hit cul de sacs and dead ends with ALL of their FA targets. Do you think well run orgs. that want to win have ever said that or anything similar to that?

I have often thought that in order to overcome the "laughing stock" image of the M's, we must pay more. Until ownership and management figure that out, we're stuck with second tier FA Talent (outside of a very select few) and wishful thinking.

[D-train]

I keep hearing JD saying they hit cul de sacs and dead ends with ALL of their FA targets. Do you think well run orgs. that want to win have ever said that or anything similar to that?

I have often thought that in order to overcome the "laughing stock" image of the M's, we must pay more. Until ownership and management figure that out, we're stuck with second tier FA Talent (outside of a very select few) and wishful thinking.

I truly believe they we weren't even will to pay the going rate. As soon as they realized what other teams were willing to pay they tapped out. Players never even had a chance to say No to coming here.

[Case_Of_The_Runs]

IMHO, I think Jerry et al. are still rebuilding. This is the penultimate year of their final division-winning roster and I expect with the money they have saved they will make a big run at the FA market next year.

I think they are in win mode right now, but they don't want to spend big on FA, TOR guys. They have a crap load of young arms that are nearly ready, and they want to bring them up and give them a chance to get their sea legs this year. I think they were wise to lock in Ray, but they want to wait and see who else can join the rotation and who will be trade bait. Flexen is gone at the end of the season, and I expect they want to want to make a splashy pitching acquisition.

Likewise, I think they are going to get JRod called up and see what happens with KLew and JK. They may cut them one of them loose and fail to resign Mitch. They might try to go big with names that would get asses in seats and fans something to froth over - maybe Ketel Marte to take over 2B and Judge in RF. Maybe make a trade or two for LF and catcher...

I know this sounds like a Christmas wishlist, but my point is this - I expect that this is not the big year we want it to be. The pieces are nearly all in place, and I have been seeing this year as a gap year to get prospects who are knocking on the door a chance to prove it. I think JD has spending flexibility because he didn't go ape shit crazy this year, so that he can be a bit splashier next year and finally get the dream roster he and Scotty have been fantasizing about.

Finally, I know that he has only gone to FA a half dozen times since he took over (and all of these were for pitching), but I think he came in with an owner's mandate to trim the fat, get rid of albatross contracts (I'm looking at you Cano, Felix and Seager), and get the team budget so low that they can cut him loose to get spendy only after he rebuilt the team with young prospects.

IMHO.