Haniger Poll

Do you want Mitch back and Will he be back

Yes even on a multi year deal and he will be back
11
48%
Yes even on a multi year deal and he won't be back
4
17%
Yes but only on a one year deal or QO and he will be back
5
22%
Yes but only on a one year deal or QO but he won't be back
2
9%
No but he will be back
1
4%
No and he won't be back
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 23

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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:19 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:27 pm
Again though I don't think we can be handing guys spots in the line who have significant MLB failure and ZERO mlb success no matter how good their AAA stats are during our Championship window. For this reason, I think we need to trade White and JK to rebuilding teams that can play them every day in meaningless games.
Definitely trade Jk this off-season…….I doubt they are ready to give up on Evan White. We would have to pay his salary to get more than a bat boy in return

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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:24 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:15 pm
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:54 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:45 am
They aren't going to give him a multi year offer. It would have been done already.
They were still counting on powder boy when that window for offers was appropriate. Then Mitch got hurt. I still think a 3 yr deal is a good one given the market. Mitch has 3 more good yrs
Julio just got an extension. Divish thinks Mitch wants to test FA. No idea how it will play out. I won't be surprised no matter what happens.
Good for Mitch to see what’s out there, however his injury history will limit him a bit, we need a Mitch in our lineup next year and the mariners being the stingy team they are will not be in on Judge. I’ve got a Benjamin that says it ain’t happenin………

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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by D-train » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:25 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:08 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:16 pm
8 of the top 10 teams is DH WAR are playoff teams the other is the Angels with Ohtani and the Cubs with Contreras who is primarily a catcher.
Nothing wrong with that, how many are using a single player primarily at dh?
Never said we had to use one guy, just need both guys to be good hitters.
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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by D-train » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:27 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:19 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:27 pm
Again though I don't think we can be handing guys spots in the line who have significant MLB failure and ZERO mlb success no matter how good their AAA stats are during our Championship window. For this reason, I think we need to trade White and JK to rebuilding teams that can play them every day in meaningless games.
Definitely trade Jk this off-season…….I doubt they are ready to give up on Evan White. We would have to pay his salary to get more than a bat boy in return
Yeah good point about White. Thanks JK for not accepting their offer or we would have two anchors...
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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by D-train » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:29 pm

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:24 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 1:15 pm
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:54 pm


They were still counting on powder boy when that window for offers was appropriate. Then Mitch got hurt. I still think a 3 yr deal is a good one given the market. Mitch has 3 more good yrs
Julio just got an extension. Divish thinks Mitch wants to test FA. No idea how it will play out. I won't be surprised no matter what happens.
Good for Mitch to see what’s out there, however his injury history will limit him a bit, we need a Mitch in our lineup next year and the mariners being the stingy team they are will not be in on Judge. I’ve got a Benjamin that says it ain’t happenin………
Yes, injury history and QO could definitely turn the green grass on the other side of the fence brown.

Yeah, power ball odds we get Judge.
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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by bpj » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:36 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:04 pm
Okay, it's not a field hospital it's having a long roster with hitters you want to get into games. I'll bet most teams are running three players through the DH. I'd be curious to check that. This thing with the mariners running a dozen through it I think is what's unique.

Okay, you can't afford to have him just be the dh. That's how we got stuck with Toro. You need to have guys that can play the field, it's nice if they can hit well enough to be a decent dh
We got stuck with Toro and Torrens DH'ing because they wouldn't bring in a quality hitter that deserved the primary job so when they'd try following their plan of rotating, it means a bench player enters the game.

So, sure, Haniger goes to DH... it doesn't mean much when it's Toro or Kelenic taking over in RF. Cancels out any positive that Mitch at DH provides because you just added one of your worst bats to the lineup as a result.

MLB just added a 26th player to the roster and the dumbass Mariners still think they need a guy that can play multiple positions and have "versatility" at DH, it's ridiculous.

If you can stash Carlos Santana on your roster once you've seen the error of your ways, you can fit an actual DH from the get-go.
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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:03 pm

bpj wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:36 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:04 pm
Okay, it's not a field hospital it's having a long roster with hitters you want to get into games. I'll bet most teams are running three players through the DH. I'd be curious to check that. This thing with the mariners running a dozen through it I think is what's unique.

Okay, you can't afford to have him just be the dh. That's how we got stuck with Toro. You need to have guys that can play the field, it's nice if they can hit well enough to be a decent dh
We got stuck with Toro and Torrens DH'ing because they wouldn't bring in a quality hitter that deserved the primary job so when they'd try following their plan of rotating, it means a bench player enters the game.

So, sure, Haniger goes to DH... it doesn't mean much when it's Toro or Kelenic taking over in RF. Cancels out any positive that Mitch at DH provides because you just added one of your worst bats to the lineup as a result.

MLB just added a 26th player to the roster and the dumbass Mariners still think they need guys that can play multiple positions and have "versatility", it's ridiculous.

If you can stash Carlos Santana on your roster once you've seen the error of your ways, you can fit an actual DH from the get-go.
How about Evan for Santana……I’d rather they do just about anything else but it could be an upgrade on the base paths for right now

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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by Pharmabro » Mon Sep 05, 2022 8:55 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:59 pm
Passan thinks he would take the QO which will be ~$19M because he is totally set for life and it is more than 3x more than he ever made. He can then use 2023 as pillow contract to prove he can stay healthy a full season. Then gets a mult year deal after next season.

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1657798/ ... -mariners/
This is my vote. The only better one in my book is Judge and is it wise to bet that the insane money he will get go all Big-Richie in 2 years.

Mitch has proved he can hit well in Seattle. That is a commodity I am locking in for even the QO. We have Julio in stone but also have Taylor, Winker, Lewis, JK. I think Winker is broken down because he is not a 162 game player he is a guy that stays healthy by being a really good part-timer.

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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:11 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:25 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:08 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:16 pm
8 of the top 10 teams is DH WAR are playoff teams the other is the Angels with Ohtani and the Cubs with Contreras who is primarily a catcher.
Nothing wrong with that, how many are using a single player primarily at dh?
Never said we had to use one guy, just need both guys to be good hitters.
.If White can hit he can play 1B and France to DH which should keep him healthier.....I
Okay, I interpreted that as the DH. I get the impression that's the mood here, to have a single dh guy, like Cruz or Edgar.

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Re: Haniger Poll

Post by bpj » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:30 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:11 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:25 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:08 pm


Nothing wrong with that, how many are using a single player primarily at dh?
Never said we had to use one guy, just need both guys to be good hitters.
.If White can hit he can play 1B and France to DH which should keep him healthier.....I
Okay, I interpreted that as the DH. I get the impression that's the mood here, to have a single dh guy, like Cruz or Edgar.
Yeah, heaven forbid that would happen......

Most players aren't strictly DH's that have been available.

They can play some 1B, some LF, which is pretty much perfect for when your other decent bats need a day off.

The problem is currently if Mitch or Winker or France need a day off, the DH doesn't slide to the field, keeping two good bats in the game- No, we put a bench player in their spot on the field.

.800 OPS +.800 OPS = 1.600 OPS from 2 lineup spots

.800 OPS + .600 OPS = 1.400 OPS from 2 lineup spots

That's like having Toro in the lineup instead of France, on purpose.

If you want a rotating DH, you'd better build a team as deep as the Astros and Yankers have.

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