Should not be afraid to drain the farm.

[Seattle or Bust]

I haven't really heard JD Martinez named mentioned mich. I'd wouldnt mind seeing him here. He could be the primary DH and get some run at Corner Outfield when they want to rotate guys through.

He's a primary DH who is probably worse than Winker in the field.

Would have no issue giving him a 1-year deal around $12-$13 million to DH... but he won't sniff the field and Jerry loves sticking the Abraham Toro's of the world at DH so we can all suffer.

[ice99]

For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's name has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.

I like Lars Nootbaar, but he'll probably be too hard to get. Then again Bryan Reynolds is being talked about. Nootbaar will be cresting in 2026, probably, maybe.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/lars- ... osition=OF
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[D-train]

For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's name has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.

Is steamer accounting for the shift ban in its projections?

[harmony]

For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's name has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.

Is steamer accounting for the shift ban in its projections?

Good question.

[harmony]

For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's name has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.

A Minnesota blogger asks whether the Twins should trade right fielder Max Kepler:

https://www.twinkietown.com/2022/12/11/ ... ht-fielder

Another Minnesota blogger on Max Kepler:

https://twinsdaily.com/news-rumors/minn ... er-r13338/

[ice99]

Here's an example BTV of a Nootbaar trade. The Cards could sign a player like Conforto to augment their roster.
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[ddraig]

I just wish our damn beat reporters had some sort of fucking clue what front office is up to.

Yep even when they do ask a provocative question like Stone did about moving JP from SS for a FA, they just let them answer with a canned BS response instead of following up with the obvious, "Don't ya think that kind of puts you at a disadvantage in a highly competitive process to convince players to join your team?????"

It's not just the question and answer, it's the total lack of inside information. There's just nothing from these guys. Not a damn thing.

Just started reading this thread and what I find intriguing is that we here on the forum have more inside information that the supposed, professional, beat reporters. Sometimes you want to slap your forehead and say, "Gee, we thought of that a few months ago!"

[Vogelbomb]

The farm has already been drained. You have to have enough guys down there to field teams at the AA, A+ and A levels. AAA you can largely fill with 40-man guys not on the active 26 and minor-league free agents, but not at the lower levels. I'm looking forward to this farm system being re-stocked and rising up to a top 5 system in about 18 months time as our kids get older and the 2023 draft + 2 international signing periods come through

[harmony]

Yep even when they do ask a provocative question like Stone did about moving JP from SS for a FA, they just let them answer with a canned BS response instead of following up with the obvious, "Don't ya think that kind of puts you at a disadvantage in a highly competitive process to convince players to join your team?????"

It's not just the question and answer, it's the total lack of inside information. There's just nothing from these guys. Not a damn thing.

Just started reading this thread and what I find intriguing is that we here on the forum have more inside information that the supposed, professional, beat reporters. Sometimes you want to slap your forehead and say, "Gee, we thought of that a few months ago!"

Beat reporters may have more information than they're sharing with their audiences.

Or not.

Front offices (and public figures) may share information with a beat reporter with the understanding that the information remain private for the time being. The beat reporter may decline in advance to make that agreement.

Beat reporters are dependent on their sources. Thirty years ago that source may have needed the beat reporter almost as much as the beat reporter needed the source. That's changed as the source can use social media to go directly to the audience, bypassing the filter of the beat reporter. As a result the public figure has a tighter grip on the message reaching (or not reaching) the public.

It's the change in information economics.

harmony
former newspaper reporter and editor
former UW* journalism professor

* OK, OK ... not the Seattle UW but the Cowboy UW )

[D-train]

For outfield defense the Mariners should just trade for Minnesota's Max Kepler, who has an astounding 46 Defensive Runs Saved in just under 5,600 innings in right field:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... d-fielding

Kepler may benefit from the revised shift rules as Steamer projects the nearly 30-year-old Kepler with a 2023 wRC+ of 109:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/max-k ... osition=OF

Kepler is owed $8.5 million in 2023 with a $10 million team option, or $1 million buyout, for 2024. Baseball Trade Values assigns Kepler a surplus value of $5.8 million (or less than the $6.2 million assigned to Seattle's tradeable No. 30 compensatory draft pick). Kepler's name has come up in trade speculation.

Kepler could join Julio Rodriguez and Jarred Kelenic in the Seattle outfield with Teoscar Hernandez serving as the primary designed hitter. The Mariners could add Wil Myers as the first base/outfield backup as insurance against another Kelenic underperformance. If all five are producing as the trade deadline approaches an expiring contract could be traded to address a different need.

Perfect. JK is 5.6M