OFFICIAL: 2023-2024 Offseason & Free Agency Thread

[Sexymarinersfan]

I highly doubt that Dipoto goes after Bellinger, but he'll be available come this Monday. He'd be a great L-R-L Crawford, Julio, Bellinger at the top of the order.

Sadly I agree with you and that is COMPLETE Bull shit. The guy fits Perfectly with everything Diarrhea mouth says he values in a player. Controls the zone, power and even Versatility. But he cOsTs mONeY so not an option. Fuckers.

They want players to sign Hometown discounts. Oh they are willing to pay. But not at market value. Don't think for one second that Julio couldn't have gotten a deal 10x better than the one he signed with Seattle.

[D-train]

Jerry saved less than $5 million by going with Pollock and La Stella over Bellinger.

-0.9 WAR for $7.75M

4.4 WAR for $12.5M

or instead of trading Swanson and Macko for Teo for a net of $12.75M ($14M - $1.25M) for a net of 2.1 WAR for TEO - 1.4 WAR for Swanson = 0.7 WAR

He could have signed Bellinger for $12.5M for 4.4 WAR.

[D-train]

Said another way:

We could have had Bellinger AND Swanson AND Macko and a total of 5.8 WAR and an extra $250k for Stanton meal and hooker budget instead of

Teo and his 2.1 WAR

[mostonmike]

Going to put a couple of the BS myths that the idiots like to harp on to bed once and for all. Seattle is the 6th driest state in the country in the summer:

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Weather - our favourite subject. I'd suggest that the myth is based on the number of days it rains per year, not the overall rainfall total. Would you believe the number of days 156 is identical to Manchester, UK? We own the BS myth that Manchester is the rainiest place in the country.

https://www.currentresults.com/Weather/ ... y-city.php

[D-train]

About 136 of those days are not during baseball season and last I looked we have a roof a T Mobile....

[Sexymarinersfan]

I actually would have been ok with this on base machine.

Tigers Acquire Mark Canha From Brewers
November 4th, 2023 at 10:59pm CST • By Mark Polishuk
The Tigers announced that first baseman/outfielder Mark Canha has been acquired in a trade with the Brewers. Minor league reliever Blake Holub heads back to Milwaukee in return.

It can be assumed that Detroit will exercised the $11.5MM club option on Canha’s services for the 2024 season, which is essentially a $9.5MM decision since that option came with a $2MM buyout. The trade saves the Brewers from at least that $2MM payout, while also bringing a 25-year-old reliever into the farm system.

Canha’s contract was initially established with the Mets, when the veteran inked a two-year, $26.5MM free agent deal during the 2021-22 offseason. Canha’s 2022 season in New York was solid, though his performance dipped to a .245/.343/.381 slash line over 303 plate appearances in 2023 before the Mets dealt Canha to Milwaukee at the trade deadline. The change of scenery sparked Canha’s bat, and he hit .287/.373/.427 over 204 PA for the Brew Crew to help Milwaukee capture the NL Central title.

It is fair to guess that the Brewers only viewed Canha as a rental piece, yet his performance probably gave the front office some second thoughts about whether or not to retain the nine-year veteran via the club option. The $11.5MM price tag might’ve been simply a bit too high for the Brewers’ liking, plus Canha turns 35 in February and Milwaukee also has a bit of an outfielder surplus. With those outfielders needing time in the corners and at DH, Canha might’ve been considered a luxury, even though the Brewers are still in clear need of some first base help heading into 2024.

Milwaukee fans may bristle at the idea of moving Canha for payroll purposes or for “just” a minor league reliever, yet Holub might be the type of under-the-radar bullpen arm the Brewers have had a knack for discovering in recent years. A 15th-round pick for the Tigers in the 2021 draft, Holub posted a 6.23 ERA over 52 innings at the A-ball/high-A levels in 2022, but took a nice step forward this past season. Over 65 1/3 combined innings at high-A and Double-A, Holub had a 3.03 ERA, 29.34% strikeout rate, and 6.56% walk rate. The improved control is particularly noteworthy, considering how Holub struggled to avoid free passes in 2022.

Today’s trade marks one of the biggest moves made by Tigers president of baseball operations Scott Harris in his year-plus tenure, and the first sign that the Tigers could be planning to contend next year. Granted, one year of Canha isn’t a huge expenditure, and Canha might very well find himself on the move again at the deadline if Detroit isn’t in the AL Central or wild card race. However, Canha does add some veteran reinforcement to a young Tigers team, and his skillset is a fit in many ways for Detroit’s roster.

Spencer Torkelson has first base spoken for in the Motor City, but Canha can act as a right-handed hitting complement at DH or in the corner outfield for any of Kerry Carpenter, Riley Greene, Parker Meadows, or Akil Baddoo (who all swing from the left side). Canha projects as the regular left fielder for the moment, with Carpenter at DH and Greene probably targeted for right field, depending on how the Tigers deploy Greene and Meadows between center and right field. Matt Vierling, Andy Ibanez, and Zach McKinstry are also in the mix for corner outfield work, and with so many unproven commodities competing for jobs, Canha adds some stability to Detroit’s lineup.

In a related move, the Tigers yesterday also declined their $30MM club option on Miguel Cabrera for 2024, paying the future Hall-of-Famer $8MM in a buyout. Cabrera had already announced his retirement and is now moving into a special assistant role with the team, so the buyout was just a formality. It does officially end Cabrera’s 16-year run as a player in Detroit, while also ending the team’s financial commitment to the slugger. With Cabrera’s eight-year, $248MM contract now off the books, it could allow Harris a bit more flexibility to spend, such as this trade to add Canha’s deal to the Tigers’ payroll.

[bpj]

Said another way:

We could have had Bellinger AND Swanson AND Macko and a total of 5.8 WAR and an extra $250k for Stanton meal and hooker budget instead of

Teo and his 2.1 WAR

I still can't believe we got Pollock, La Stella and another year of Jarhead Kelenic after how the 2022 season went down.

Even one decent move and they're in the playoffs.

Buffoonery.

[Sexymarinersfan]

Said another way:

We could have had Bellinger AND Swanson AND Macko and a total of 5.8 WAR and an extra $250k for Stanton meal and hooker budget instead of

Teo and his 2.1 WAR

I still can't believe we got Pollock, La Stella and another year of Jarhead Kelenic after how the 2022 season went down.

Even one decent move and they're in the playoffs.

Buffoonery.

If we don't do "something" significant this offseason, then officially put me on the it's time to shit can Dipoto. However, I think that the problem goes much higher than that, all the way up to ownership. Until Stanton is rooted out like the money sucking cash grabber he is, then we will forever be in turmoil.

Anyone on this blog wanna take any bets that we never win a World Series under John Stanton?

[D-train]

Said another way:

We could have had Bellinger AND Swanson AND Macko and a total of 5.8 WAR and an extra $250k for Stanton meal and hooker budget instead of

Teo and his 2.1 WAR

I still can't believe we got Pollock, La Stella and another year of Jarhead Kelenic after how the 2022 season went down.

Even one decent move and they're in the playoffs.

Buffoonery.

Jerry thought this was the perfect trio to push us over the top.

2022 OPS
JK .534
TLS .632
Pollock .681

[D-train]

Said another way:

We could have had Bellinger AND Swanson AND Macko and a total of 5.8 WAR and an extra $250k for Stanton meal and hooker budget instead of

Teo and his 2.1 WAR

I still can't believe we got Pollock, La Stella and another year of Jarhead Kelenic after how the 2022 season went down.

Even one decent move and they're in the playoffs.

Buffoonery.

If we don't do "something" significant this offseason, then officially put me on the it's time to shit can Dipoto. However, I think that the problem goes much higher than that, all the way up to ownership. Until Stanton is rooted out like the money sucking cash grabber he is, then we will forever be in turmoil.

Anyone on this blog wanna take any bets that we never win a World Series under John Stanton?

Totally agree on Stanton but Jerry flushed $33M on straight trash.