Luke Raley for Jose C

[Captain 97]

There are two ways to look at your fav team. Analytically and on a personal level (are they easy to root for and likeable)

I think they are a little better when looking at them analytically and better in terms of likability.

Out:
JK
Teo

In
Mitch
Raley

You left out Geno and Urias. I don't think that helps either of those categories. They still need a 3b in my opinion.

[D-train]

There are two ways to look at your fav team. Analytically and on a personal level (are they easy to root for and likeable)

I think they are a little better when looking at them analytically and better in terms of likability.

Out:
JK
Teo

In
Mitch
Raley

You left out Geno and Urias. I don't think that helps either of those categories. They still need a 3b in my opinion.

Yes agree on both accounts. Urias is in a friend of my Brother's wealth management firm and I guess he is a total dick.

[ice99]

Mike Ford was left off.

Outgoing K%s as a Mariner

Mike Ford 32.2%
Jarred Kelenic 31.7%
Teoscar Hernández 31.1%
Eugenio Suárez 31.0%
Tom Murphy 30.1%
José Caballero 23.6%

Average: 30%

Incoming K%

Zavala 36.3%
Raley 31.5%
Haniger 28.4%
Garver 23.8%
Urias 23.2%

Average: 28.6%

[D-train]

Mike Ford was left off.

Outgoing K%s as a Mariner

Mike Ford 32.2%
Jarred Kelenic 31.7%
Teoscar Hernández 31.1%
Eugenio Suárez 31.0%
Tom Murphy 30.1%
José Caballero 23.6%

Average: 30%

Incoming K%

Zavala 36.3%
Raley 31.5%
Haniger 28.4%
Garver 23.8%
Urias 23.2%

Average: 28.6%

So 29% vs. 30% (-3%) and payroll down from $140M to $117M (-16%)

[harmony]

There are two ways to look at your fav team. Analytically and on a personal level (are they easy to root for and likeable)

I think they are a little better when looking at them analytically and better in terms of likability.

Out:
JK
Teo

In
Mitch
Raley

You left out Geno and Urias. I don't think that helps either of those categories. They still need a 3b in my opinion.

FWIW FanGraphs projects Eugenio Suarez with 2024 WAR and wRC+ of 1.7 and 99 in 146 games while projecting Luis Urias with 2024 WAR and wRC+ of 2.0 and 104 in 110 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/eugen ... osition=3B

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/luis- ... n=2B/3B/SS

Of course last year Suarez posted 3.2 fWAR and a 102 wRC+ in 162 games.

[ice99]

Mike Ford was left off.

Outgoing K%s as a Mariner

Mike Ford 32.2%
Jarred Kelenic 31.7%
Teoscar Hernández 31.1%
Eugenio Suárez 31.0%
Tom Murphy 30.1%
José Caballero 23.6%

Average: 30%

Incoming K%

Zavala 36.3%
Raley 31.5%
Haniger 28.4%
Garver 23.8%
Urias 23.2%

Average: 28.6%

So 29% vs. 30% (-3%) and payroll down from $140M to $117M (-16%)

Yes, but some of the payroll dump was pitchers.

[D-train]

There are two ways to look at your fav team. Analytically and on a personal level (are they easy to root for and likeable)

I think they are a little better when looking at them analytically and better in terms of likability.

Out:
JK
Teo

In
Mitch
Raley

You left out Geno and Urias. I don't think that helps either of those categories. They still need a 3b in my opinion.

FWIW FanGraphs projects Eugenio Suarez with 2024 WAR and wRC+ of 1.7 and 99 in 146 games while projecting Luis Urias with 2024 WAR and wRC+ of 2.0 and 104 in 110 games:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/eugen ... osition=3B

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/luis- ... n=2B/3B/SS

Of course last year Suarez posted 3.2 fWAR and a 102 wRC+ in 162 games.

And LU posted negative WAR.

[ice99]

Well, since the Rays traded Raley, 2023 could be his high water mark.

[D-train]

Well, since the Rays traded Raley, 2023 could be his high water mark.

Yep smartest franchise to never win a WS for sure.

[D-train]

Probably easier to calculate the GDP of the US than calculate our payroll given all of the crazy trades and cash transfers but the bottom line is our payroll should be higher than it is. How much higher is up for debate but if they roll with this roster and payroll they are even cheaper than I thought.