Civil War is here.

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Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:45 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:31 pm
I can't say that I really like this. A 223 from an AR-15:
A .223-caliber or 5.56-millimeter bullet fired from an AR-15-style rifle can travel at speeds of around 3,200 feet per second (fps) when it leaves the muzzle. At 500 yards, the bullet can still be traveling at 1,660 fps. This speed can make the .223 potentially deadlier than the .22, which only leaves the muzzle at 2,690 fps and slows to 840 fps at 500 yards.

So at 130 yards (which is nearly point blank for this type of round) would still be traveling over 2,500 feet per second. That would mean it's there nearly as soon as it leaves the barrel.

I don't know how President Trump dodged this, but I would call it a miracle..... or just shithouse luck.

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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:46 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:38 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:57 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
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Or the Jews.....which is where we have bumped heads in the past.
Killing Presidents is always bad..... just makes the USA look like a bunch of desperate hicks.
Abortion.....I will support it, but there must be a lot of regulations and it must occur before 12 weeks.

But even with us bumping heads on occasion, I don't recall any hatred between us the way I detect the hatred with Seattle or Bust.
Yeah, you're wrong about Israel.

SoB is a deranged liberal. There's no reasoning with them, they're degenerates.
I know you think I'm wrong on Israel.
8-)
Good. I wouldn't want to be mistaken for a supporter of the people who hate Christ and Christians.

Muslims get vilified as the anti-Christians, but they believe Jesus was a great prophet and will return, like Christians do.

Jews believe Jesus was a heretic born to a prostitute.

It's not difficult to grasp.

Judeo-Christian is a made up term to protect the people referenced in John 8:44, Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9.

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Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:50 pm

If it wasn't for the Jews, Christ wouldn't have died for our sins.

As for born from a prostitute....no. Mary (his mother) was not a prostitute.

Mary Magdalene (thought to be his wife by some), at one point was taught by the Catholic Church to be a prostitute. But they have back-tracked on that.

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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:52 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:50 pm
If it wasn't for the Jews, Christ wouldn't have died for our sins.

As for born from a prostitute....no. Mary (his mother) was not a prostitute.

Mary Magdalene (thought to be his wife by some), at one point was taught by the Catholic Church to be a prostitute. But they have back-tracked on that.
If not for the Jews (who call themselves Jews and are not, Rev. 3:9) , he wouldn't have been persecuted into dying on the cross. So I guess, yeah, we can thank them for that.

But they still hate Jesus just like they did when they pushed to have him killed.

Don't tell me Mary wasn't a prostitute, tell the Jews. I'm not the one that believes it.

(The people who call themselves Jews, but are not, are the ones currently called "Israel").

Jews who believe in Christ are called Christians.

Spelled out pretty clear in John 8:34-58
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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:02 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-class ... oliticians

A classmate speaks up.

Part of the article.

BETHEL PARK, Pa. – A former classmate of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks says the 20-year-old gunman once mocked him over his support of former President Donald Trump and had a general disdain for mainstream politicians across the political aisle.

"I brought up the fact that I'm Hispanic and, you know, I'm for Trump. And he said, 'Well, you're Hispanic, so shouldn't you hate Trump?'" Vincent Taormina told Fox News Digital Tuesday. "No. He's great. He was a great president. He called me stupid – or insinuated that I was stupid."

It happened during a discussion in an English class during the 2016 campaign, he said. Trump, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders were all still in the race.

"He just did not like politicians, especially with the choices that we had," Taormina said. "He did not like our politicians."

Taormina that Crooks was usually quiet, except on certain topics that he seemed passionate about, including math and politics. And on those issues, he could be "smug [and] arrogant," he added.

"They were definitely the type, and they did, make threats to shoot up our school," he said.

Although he and other classmates suspected Crooks himself was behind a threat, he said he had no firm proof. But after the threat came in, the future would-be assassin didn't return to school for a few days.

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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by D-train » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:37 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:45 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:31 pm
I can't say that I really like this. A 223 from an AR-15:
A .223-caliber or 5.56-millimeter bullet fired from an AR-15-style rifle can travel at speeds of around 3,200 feet per second (fps) when it leaves the muzzle. At 500 yards, the bullet can still be traveling at 1,660 fps. This speed can make the .223 potentially deadlier than the .22, which only leaves the muzzle at 2,690 fps and slows to 840 fps at 500 yards.

So at 130 yards (which is nearly point blank for this type of round) would still be traveling over 2,500 feet per second. That would mean it's there nearly as soon as it leaves the barrel.

I don't know how President Trump dodged this, but I would call it a miracle..... or just shithouse luck.
But you are not accounting the time to pull the trigger. Gunman sees his head in the first position. Starts to pull the trigger just as Trump beings to turn his head. His head is moving into the second position before the bullet leaves the barrel. Seems plausible.

Ironic that he was turning to look at the illegal alien graphic. I guess you could say illegals saved his life. lol
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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:42 pm

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:02 pm
https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-class ... oliticians

A classmate speaks up.

Part of the article.

BETHEL PARK, Pa. – A former classmate of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks says the 20-year-old gunman once mocked him over his support of former President Donald Trump and had a general disdain for mainstream politicians across the political aisle.

"I brought up the fact that I'm Hispanic and, you know, I'm for Trump. And he said, 'Well, you're Hispanic, so shouldn't you hate Trump?'" Vincent Taormina told Fox News Digital Tuesday. "No. He's great. He was a great president. He called me stupid – or insinuated that I was stupid."

It happened during a discussion in an English class during the 2016 campaign, he said. Trump, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders were all still in the race.

"He just did not like politicians, especially with the choices that we had," Taormina said. "He did not like our politicians."

Taormina that Crooks was usually quiet, except on certain topics that he seemed passionate about, including math and politics. And on those issues, he could be "smug [and] arrogant," he added.

"They were definitely the type, and they did, make threats to shoot up our school," he said
.

Although he and other classmates suspected Crooks himself was behind a threat, he said he had no firm proof. But after the threat came in, the future would-be assassin didn't return to school for a few days.
Who's they?

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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:59 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:42 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:02 pm
https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-class ... oliticians

A classmate speaks up.

Part of the article.

BETHEL PARK, Pa. – A former classmate of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks says the 20-year-old gunman once mocked him over his support of former President Donald Trump and had a general disdain for mainstream politicians across the political aisle.

"I brought up the fact that I'm Hispanic and, you know, I'm for Trump. And he said, 'Well, you're Hispanic, so shouldn't you hate Trump?'" Vincent Taormina told Fox News Digital Tuesday. "No. He's great. He was a great president. He called me stupid – or insinuated that I was stupid."

It happened during a discussion in an English class during the 2016 campaign, he said. Trump, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders were all still in the race.

"He just did not like politicians, especially with the choices that we had," Taormina said. "He did not like our politicians."

Taormina that Crooks was usually quiet, except on certain topics that he seemed passionate about, including math and politics. And on those issues, he could be "smug [and] arrogant," he added.

"They were definitely the type, and they did, make threats to shoot up our school," he said
.

Although he and other classmates suspected Crooks himself was behind a threat, he said he had no firm proof. But after the threat came in, the future would-be assassin didn't return to school for a few days.
Who's they?
Didn't read that thoroughly, my B.
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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by bpj » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:03 am

Are they insinuating in that article he threatened to shoot up the school before?

I doubt we can trust anything said yet, but will be interesting to see what the truth is in the end.

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Re: Civil War is here.

Post by bpj » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:04 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:59 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:42 pm
Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:02 pm
https://www.foxnews.com/us/former-class ... oliticians

A classmate speaks up.

Part of the article.

BETHEL PARK, Pa. – A former classmate of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks says the 20-year-old gunman once mocked him over his support of former President Donald Trump and had a general disdain for mainstream politicians across the political aisle.

"I brought up the fact that I'm Hispanic and, you know, I'm for Trump. And he said, 'Well, you're Hispanic, so shouldn't you hate Trump?'" Vincent Taormina told Fox News Digital Tuesday. "No. He's great. He was a great president. He called me stupid – or insinuated that I was stupid."

It happened during a discussion in an English class during the 2016 campaign, he said. Trump, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders were all still in the race.

"He just did not like politicians, especially with the choices that we had," Taormina said. "He did not like our politicians."

Taormina that Crooks was usually quiet, except on certain topics that he seemed passionate about, including math and politics. And on those issues, he could be "smug [and] arrogant," he added.

"They were definitely the type, and they did, make threats to shoot up our school," he said
.

Although he and other classmates suspected Crooks himself was behind a threat, he said he had no firm proof. But after the threat came in, the future would-be assassin didn't return to school for a few days.
Who's they?
So he was a Trump supporter who hated politicians.

Perhaps Trump said something he didn't like and because of his personality, it turned violent.

The type is the quiet kid who would get smug and arrogant about the things he cared about. She's saying he made threats to shoot up their school.
Lol.

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