Wildfires in CA

[seattlefan-daBronx]

Let's see.
Major instability in liberal Cali before Trump's inauguration.
Couldn't be a bunch of bitch hurt globalists and democrats doing this....oh no! Let's blame the homeless.
Homes, schools, businesses, thousands of acres, people have died.

Liberal NYC too.
The powers at be just rolled out these congestion pricing initiatives before the inauguration.
And now there's nothing but crowded trains, and buses with all the homeless and crazy mother fuckers and criminals causing cane.
Small business and people are dying because of this bullshit.

Not to mention the lawfare Amy Barrett and John Roberts allowed NY Judges to usurp Federal authority in Trumps "case", imho, modern day traitors.

We're still at war with ourselves. They steal all the money, put us in debt, negligence by design. Rinse and repeat.
Until the criminals are arrested, prosecuted, and sentenced nothing will change. Sabotage to advert any change.

[seattlefan-daBronx]

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[ddraig]

And yet Bass cut Fire services by $17.6 million and did not refill the Palisades reservoir. And Newsom cut state Fire services to the tune of $100 million. Yes, if I read it on multiple sites like CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. I tend to take it for their words.

First off, I don't wish anyone's house to burn, celebrity or not. Secondly, I haven't heard of any celebs complaining that their houses burned. The article I quoted outlines that they were complaining about the overall lack of preparedness on the part of city officials and politicians. You know, those overpaid losers whose job it is to plan for this sort of thing. And as ddraig pointed out, Bass and Newsom dropped the proverbial ball. And as bpj noted, the insurance companies aren't helping.

Again, do a little more reading. I think James Woods is a celebrity! I think you've heard of a guy by the name of Mel Gibson. Paris Hilton? Billy Crystal? Ben Affleck? Tom Hanks, Reese Witherspoon, Michael Keaton, Adam Sandler, Cary Elwes, Ricki Lake, Haley Joel Osment, John Goodman, Anthony Hopkins? These are just a few celebrities who say they lost their homes. Take it with a grain of salt because some have actually been taken off the list by now but I daresay that many of these individuals are celebrities! It didn't take much searching on the internet.

[auroraave]

The best part of this entire thread - is all the people that don't live in Cal - telling those of us that do 'how it is" down here.
There are homeless fires - all the time. This is a fact it's not a political position. Just a few weeks ago a homeless winnebago burned down not far from me. There are encampments that have RV's - it's not just tents on curbs. There are also people running around trying to start fires - some have been caught. There are gangs setting fires to force evacuations so they can loot. Newsom refused to address the 'forest' maintenance in this state - cleaning up scrub brush around a state that is known for fires - a technique they use in places like Finland to reduce potential burns. Newsome, to safe the smelt fish, turned water away from Socal and into the ocean - literally billions of gallons that could have come here for reservoirs and would have helped - in times like this. He made this decision KNOWING the propensity for wild fires in the state. Trump told him years agio he needed to address the forest situation - he promised do do so - and did nothing. It's all on camera, too.

Under newsom we have had total lawlessness due to his and the dems 'soft on crime' policies which have led to the brazen looting - open borders have allowed south american gangs in to roam freely to work in organized crime fashion out in the Palisades and Altadena. "Scooter gangs". It's unbelievable. Newsome saving the 'smelt fish" for a photo op while ignoring the needs of Socal will be his legacy. He is in massive damage control right now. He's in so deep - he invited Trump out here to see the damage. Want to know the best part? We had an emergency 'legislative session' gaveled to figure out how to 'beat Trump" - not to address the fires - but to address Trump. Imagine that kind of stupidity. How does that help Californians? HInt: It doesn't.

If you were a common sense legislator and you knew you could literally send billions of gallons of clean water to your state, but you chose to send it back into the ocean where NO TAXPAYER gets ANY benefit - in fact just the opposite - what would you do? Instead we get the 50 billion dollar train out in the middle of nowhere - that goes nowhere.

Newsome spent 24 billion on homeless - and in his entire political career - it has ONLY gotten worse. That seems mathematically impossible, doesn't it? In one legislative session - $24 billion - and the best part is it is all unaccounted for.

Homelessness, lawlessness, waterlessness - in the most populous and richest state in the country.

There are far more than "celebs" losing homes - I know of AT LEAST 20 people whose homes have burned, writers, agents, managers, lawyers, doctors, execs, and yeah, even a couple actors I deal with. Ron Shelton lost his - you all know who he is.

That's what's up in Cal.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

They do not know where or how the fires started. Good Christ... why do you just believe EVERYTHING you read that supports your bias?

Are you arguing that the homeless ACTUALLY provide something to this world?
Or are you just being the complete asshole that you always are?

No, I'm arguing that there's no evidence to the rumor that homeless people started the fires in Los Angeles that you blindly adhered to. It was a malicious rumor started by right-wing propogandists on social media.

But please, dishonestly pivot some more.

Pivot more?

Are you having trouble with comprehension again?

DT was the one that said the homeless were the cause of the fire, NOT ME. I just said that the homeless are a gift that keeps on giving.

You are such a dumbass.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Yeah it couldn't be true because there has never been a fire break out at a homeless camp. lol

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SOB, who seems to be the IGNORANT ASSHOLE now?

[Seattle or Bust]

The best part of this entire thread - is all the people that don't ;live in Cal - telling those of us that do 'how it is" down here.
There are homeless fires - all the time. This is a fact it's not a political position. Just a few weeks ago a homeless winnebago burned down not far from me. There are also people running around trying to start fires - some have been caught. There are gangs setting fires to force evacuations so they can loot. Newsom refused to address the 'forest' maintenance in this state - cleaning up scrub brush around a state that is known for fires - a technique they use in places like Finland to reduce potential burns. Newsome, to safe the smelt fish, turned water away from Socal and into the ocean - literally billions of gallons that could have come here for reservoirs and would have helped - in times like this. He made this decision KNOWING the propensity for wild fires in the state.

Under newsome we have had total lawlessness due to his and the dems 'soft on crime' policies which have led to the brazen looting - open borders have allowed south american gangs in to roam freely to work ij organized crime fashion out in the Palisades and Altadena. Newsome saving the 'smelt fish" for a photo op while ignoring the needs of Socal will be his legacy. He is in massive damage control right now. He's in so deep - he invited Trump out here to see the damage. Want to know the best part? We had an emergency 'legislative session' gaveled to figure out how to 'beat Trump" - not to address the fires - but to address Trump. Imagine that kind of stupidity.

If you were a common sense legislator and you knew you could literally send billions of gallons of clean water to your state, but you chose to send it back into the ocean where NO TAXPAYER gets ANY benefit - in fact just the opposite - what would you do? Instead we get the 50 billion dollar train out in the middle of nowhere - that goes nowhere.

Newsome spent 24 billion on homeless - and in his entire political career - it has ONLY gotten worse. That seems mathematically impossible, doesn't it? In one legislative session - $24 billion - and the best part is it is all unaccounted for.

Homelessness, lawlessness, waterlessness - in the most populous and richest state in the country.

There are far more than "celebs" losing homes - I know of AT LEAST 20 people whose homes have burned, writers, agents, managers, lawyers, doctors, execs, and yeah, even a couple actors I deal with. Ron Shelton lost his - you all know who he is.

That's what's up in Cal.

I lived in SoCal for a decade and worked directly in downtown Hollywood.

But here... let me pull an Aurora and write a long-form book of nothingness:

"There are fires started by people in the TV and film industry - all the time. It's a well-known fact that executives in this industry smoke cigarettes like chimneys and discard their cigarette butts with reckless abandon. I worked around these people for years... the amount of cigarette butts I saw people in this industry thrown out of cars, into gardens, missing cigarette receptacles out of laziness... obscene. Donald Trump's focus on vegetation on the floors of forests is PURE distraction to protect the cigarette industry and their connection to arson and correlating wildfires.

RAI Services Co., a subsidiary of Reynolds American, was the biggest corporate donor to Trump’s campaign and affiliated super PACs, Federal Election Commission filings show, giving a combined $10 million to the Make America Great Again Inc. super PAC that backed Trump’s campaign in 2024. Reynolds owns the companies that control some of the most well-known tobacco brands, such as Newport, Camel, Pall Mall, Lucky Strike and Natural American Spirit. The Washington Post reported in September that Trump-aligned Reynolds lobbyist Brian Ballard was the one to suggest the company give to Trump, as tobacco executives reportedly saw electing the ex-president as the best way to avoid a potential ban on menthol cigarettes and curb regulation against the tobacco industry.

As a matter of fact, I think it was AURORA!!! who started the fires in Los Angeles. His willingness to scapegoat the homeless is a BIG tell about his sinister intentions: 1. He hates the homeless and wants steps taken to eradicate them. 2. His disdain for Governor Gavin Newsome is always on full display... he would take drastic measures to make Newsome look incompetent 3. He is around smokers all the time and may even be a smoker himself... Can this be disputed? Good luck trying!

His passion for scapegoating the homeless is an ENORMOUS tell! He'd do anything to protect his precious Trump, Trump's lobbyists, and his cigarettes. Better hope they don't discover the cigarette that started it all... HOW SINISTER."

Like... do you not see how stupid your post is given that it's just all made up bullshit? The fact that a wildfire was started and houses burnt down has nothing to do with the homeless until there is direct evidence that a homeless person started the fire. You can literally throw any blind theory out there that you want and it has no bearing on the facts until the investigation reveals what happened. Until then, it's just stupid scapegoating meant to harm people who you dislike. There are many causes of wildfires... you selecting one without evidence is out of pure hate.

[Seattle or Bust]

Are you arguing that the homeless ACTUALLY provide something to this world?
Or are you just being the complete asshole that you always are?

No, I'm arguing that there's no evidence to the rumor that homeless people started the fires in Los Angeles that you blindly adhered to. It was a malicious rumor started by right-wing propogandists on social media.

But please, dishonestly pivot some more.

Pivot more?

Are you having trouble with comprehension again?

DT was the one that said the homeless were the cause of the fire, NOT ME. I just said that the homeless are a gift that keeps on giving.

You are such a dumbass.

Why the fuck would you say that if you weren't agreeing with the premise?

THE HOMELESS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WILDFIRES UNTIL AN INVESTIGATION PROVES THEY CAUSED IT.

Like is this really that hard for you people?

RE: your other post... Great... homeless people start fires. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE STARTED THIS FIRE. Until there is proof, shut the fuck up and stop scapegoating.

[bpj]

How funny is it to hear a lib talking about waiting for the results of an investigation before assuming guilt. Lol.

Sounds like one of their suspects at least, is not just homeless, but an illegal immigrant.

The homeless man tackled and zip-tied by onlookers who say he was trying to start fires with a blowtorch near a Los Angeles wildfire is an illegal immigrant who will likely be protected by California’s sanctuary city status, according to sources.

The suspect is Juan Manuel Sierra-Leyva, a Mexican national who is in the United States illegally, sources told The Post.

[douche]

Again, do a little more reading. I think James Woods is a celebrity! I think you've heard of a guy by the name of Mel Gibson. Paris Hilton? Billy Crystal? Ben Affleck? Tom Hanks, Reese Witherspoon, Michael Keaton, Adam Sandler, Cary Elwes, Ricki Lake, Haley Joel Osment, John Goodman, Anthony Hopkins? These are just a few celebrities who say they lost their homes. Take it with a grain of salt because some have actually been taken off the list by now but I daresay that many of these individuals are celebrities! It didn't take much searching on the internet.

I saw all of that, but I didn't read/hear that any of them were complaining about losing their homes. They were merely sharing updates and were thankful to have survived. But some have complained about the lack of preparedness and foresight on the part of city officials and government.