Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:33 am

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Why do homers hurt BABIP? Are you implying that the approach of those players at the plate results in more fly balls which are almost all converted into outs if they don't leave the field?
It is a hit, but not a ball in play. If instead of getting a HR if JRod hit it 10 feet lower down he would have had a wall banger double. But there is a point to be made that some of the HR’s would have been outs if the OF could have had a wall at 430’ instead of 405’ instead
So you view it as a matter of approach? The data seems to indicate that he is swinging harder (or perhaps just making more solid contact) and hitting the ball with a higher trajectory than in past seasons.

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:13 pm

Where he stacks up on Statcast measures...

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:24 pm

sorry, OT, but that's pretty wild, 46 years old. Talk about ichiro hanging on. The guy has been a senator

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:34 pm

Batted ball stats for his career...

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:26 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
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sorry, OT, but that's pretty wild, 46 years old. Talk about ichiro hanging on. The guy has been a senator

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Were you in PI when he fought Mayweather?

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Captain 97 » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:38 pm

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No because they aren't included in the numerator of the calculation. Double off the top of the wall are so they increase your BABIP.
Aren't home runs considered "not in play"? So why would they affect a stat for balls in play?
If a guy has 100 hits in 300 at bats? He is hitting .333, which is really damn good. If 25 of his hits are homeruns? Those are removed, as they are not balls in play. He's now 75 for 275, which is a big drop to .272. Yes, I realize he would have strike outs, and balls caught in foul territory to be removed as well, but that is why I think it's a stupid stat. Let's create a stat to see how good a hitter is, and then make it so a HR lowers his numbers!

I can't come up with any scenario that makes that make sense.
The purpose of BABip is not to indicate how good a hitter is. It is supposed to measure how lucky or unlucky they are based on how many many of the balls they put in play are finding holes. I think its flawed for that as well but that's its intent.

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Michael K. » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:42 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
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I think its flawed for that as well but that's its intent.
I get that, but I think it's so flawed it's useless. Cal is unlucky because he hits HRs?

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:18 pm

There is a lot more to it than luck.

https://www.espn.com/fantasy/baseball/f ... ndingbabip

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:46 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:26 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:24 pm
sorry, OT, but that's pretty wild, 46 years old. Talk about ichiro hanging on. The guy has been a senator

https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1954575370323165519
Were you in PI when he fought Mayweather?
No, it was really the early fights that were pretty amazing that I witnessed there. I can't think of anything to compare it to. Everything shut down for a Pacquiao fight and i mean everything. The streets deserted, truces established in the south with the muslims. Everybody stopped what they are doing to watch him fight. If someone had a TV going in their home there be crowds looking in the windows to watch. Later on it seemed to get more jaded

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Re: Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

Post by Michael K. » Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:49 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:18 pm
There is a lot more to it than luck.

https://www.espn.com/fantasy/baseball/f ... ndingbabip
I also find it odd that a hitter could go 1 for 4 with 3 Ks and have a batting average of .250 but a BABIP of 1.000. He was lucky because he struck out I guess?

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