You can't even make this up

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by D-train » Tue Sep 09, 2025 12:50 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:43 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:55 pm
Inconvenient Truth. The M's have won more playoff games than the Hawks since 2016. :shock:
That's right up there with the fact that you have to fly east from Miami on the Atlantic coast to get to Lima on the Pacific coast. Whaaaaaa
And Reno is West of LA
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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by DavidGee24 » Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:25 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:22 pm
I just found out its been 30 years since the Cowboys went to the SB....Americs team lol
For better or worse, that moniker should belong to the Yankees, and it shouldn't even be open for discussion.

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by Michael K. » Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:29 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:25 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:22 pm
I just found out its been 30 years since the Cowboys went to the SB....Americs team lol
For better or worse, that moniker should belong to the Yankees, and it shouldn't even be open for discussion.
If I remember correctly, the NFL coined this, and they wanted it to be the Steelers. The Rooney family wanted nothing to do with it, but those Boys down in Dallas were more than happy.

Gotta love Google and AI. I guess I did remember correctly
Yes, the NFL and NFL Films originally wanted to name the Pittsburgh Steelers "America's Team" after they beat the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl X. However, Steelers founder and owner Art Rooney declined the offer, stating, "We are not America's Team. We are the Pittsburgh Steelers". The nickname was then offered to and accepted by the Dallas Cowboys.

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:45 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:29 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:25 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:22 pm
I just found out its been 30 years since the Cowboys went to the SB....Americs team lol
For better or worse, that moniker should belong to the Yankees, and it shouldn't even be open for discussion.
If I remember correctly, the NFL coined this, and they wanted it to be the Steelers. The Rooney family wanted nothing to do with it, but those Boys down in Dallas were more than happy.

Gotta love Google and AI. I guess I did remember correctly
Yes, the NFL and NFL Films originally wanted to name the Pittsburgh Steelers "America's Team" after they beat the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl Xeah. However, Steelers founder and owner Art Rooney declined the offer, stating, "We are not America's Team. We are the Pittsburgh Steelers". The nickname was then offered to and accepted by the Dallas Cowboys.
interesting...yeah, they were already the Steel Curtain, how many nicknames do you need

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by D-train » Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:03 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:45 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:29 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 5:25 am


For better or worse, that moniker should belong to the Yankees, and it shouldn't even be open for discussion.
If I remember correctly, the NFL coined this, and they wanted it to be the Steelers. The Rooney family wanted nothing to do with it, but those Boys down in Dallas were more than happy.

Gotta love Google and AI. I guess I did remember correctly
Yes, the NFL and NFL Films originally wanted to name the Pittsburgh Steelers "America's Team" after they beat the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl Xeah. However, Steelers founder and owner Art Rooney declined the offer, stating, "We are not America's Team. We are the Pittsburgh Steelers". The nickname was then offered to and accepted by the Dallas Cowboys.
interesting...yeah, they were already the Steel Curtain, how many nicknames do you need
That was the nickname for the Defense. Originally it was just for the D Line but later the entire defense. Definitely not the entire team.
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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by Michael K. » Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:13 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:03 pm

That was the nickname for the Defense. Originally it was just for the D Line but later the entire defense. Definitely not the entire team.
Very LOBish. It really seems that some people refer to that entire defense as the LOB, when it was really just the Secondary. I just can't remember which year Browner played. I know he was an original member of the LOB, but was it Shead that started at CB in the Super Bowl? I remember Lane being the Nickel in the bad Super Bowl. Him and Avril getting hurt were killers for us. But that Corner spot opposite Sherman always seemed to have a new face.

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:03 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:45 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:29 pm


If I remember correctly, the NFL coined this, and they wanted it to be the Steelers. The Rooney family wanted nothing to do with it, but those Boys down in Dallas were more than happy.

Gotta love Google and AI. I guess I did remember correctly

interesting...yeah, they were already the Steel Curtain, how many nicknames do you need
That was the nickname for the Defense. Originally it was just for the D Line but later the entire defense. Definitely not the entire team.
yeah, and it seems Rooney was happy with just that

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:53 pm

The Steelers began their 1976 season 1–4 and lost their quarterback, Terry Bradshaw. For the nine games remaining in the season, the Steelers recorded five shutouts (three of them uninterrupted), and only allowed two touchdowns (both in a single game), and five field goals. The defense allowed an average 3.1 points per game and the team had an average margin of victory of 22 points. Eight of the Steelers' starting eleven defensive players were selected for the Pro Bowl that year, and four would be selected to the Hall of Fame
and they did it with a defensive line with players overlooked by other teams because they played at small southern black colleges

Joe Greene was a fourth overall pick
LC Greenwood was selected in the tenth round
Earnest Lee Holmes selected in the eighth round
Dwight White selected in the fourth round

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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by D-train » Tue Sep 09, 2025 3:11 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Sep 09, 2025 2:53 pm
The Steelers began their 1976 season 1–4 and lost their quarterback, Terry Bradshaw. For the nine games remaining in the season, the Steelers recorded five shutouts (three of them uninterrupted), and only allowed two touchdowns (both in a single game), and five field goals. The defense allowed an average 3.1 points per game and the team had an average margin of victory of 22 points. Eight of the Steelers' starting eleven defensive players were selected for the Pro Bowl that year, and four would be selected to the Hall of Fame
and they did it with a defensive line with players overlooked by other teams because they played at small southern black colleges

Joe Greene was a fourth overall pick
LC Greenwood was selected in the tenth round
Earnest Lee Holmes selected in the eighth round
Dwight White selected in the fourth round
Imagine the Scouts that had to scout them with ZERO technology. Had to go to games in those small stadiums in the middle of nowhere and hand write scouting reports in their motel rooms and then go back to team headquarters and hand the pieces of paper to the Scouting director. And that work led to a dynasty. Wild.
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Re: You can't even make this up

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 09, 2025 3:24 pm

I am just reading off of wiki, i find this kind of stuff fascinating. So a guy named Bill Nunn is given most of the credit, a black sports writer, he's in the HOF now, they named an award after him. I hadn't heard of any of this, the steelers were basically the dodgers of football and its the seventies, wild. We are talking the Pittsburg Courier, he was a local Pittsburg guy
As a sportswriter for a black publication, Nunn developed deep knowledge of football programs at historically black colleges and universities. The Courier named a "Black College All-America" team starting in 1950.The NFL's Pittsburgh Steelers noted Nunn's coverage of these players who were traditionally under-represented in the league and in 1967 Nunn accepted a part-time position on team's scouting staff. The sideline became a full-time position two years later when Chuck Noll became the team's coach.

Nunn is most noted for scouting players such as Mel Blount, John Stallworth, Donnie Shell and Sam Davis from historically black colleges and universities (HBCU) who played integral roles in the Steelers' four Super Bowl championships during the 1970s. In the case of Stallworth, scouts from various NFL teams observed him run the 40-yard dash on a wet track at Alabama A&M University and were disappointed by the results. Nunn was the only scout to stay an additional day and watched Stallworth run a better time on a dry track.

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