Postmortem: Seattle v Metcalfdropsemburgh

[D-train]

Imagine if the Seahawks had hired Monte Kohler as their head coach. They could be running a wing T and doing geometry in the meeting rooms. Good governor, can you not enjoy a win without bitching about something?

So, Walker goes off for over a hundred and has the back breaking TD run in the 4th - and your concerned because Charbonnet didn't also? C'mon dude.

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one of the best prop bets of the day, hope you didn't bet your house

According to Tyler Sullivan at CBS Sports, Charbonnet's prop bet for over 42.5 rushing yards against the Pittsburgh Steelers is one of this week's best bets.

"In his career, Charbonnet has exceeded this current rushing yards prop in nine of the 10 games he's logged double-digit carries, including last week against the Niners. On top of the added opportunity, the Steelers are coming off a Week 1 performance where they allowed 134 rushing yards to backs, which was the third-highest in the league."

if you change the dynamics of the game, that is make K9 injured who knows how that affects the rest of the game, I can't see how you can assume everything else stays the same. Charbonnet is a solid back, for some reason he didn't produce but take K9 out of the game and then maybe he does, who knows.

We have seen him go off and K9 struggle. It is more about the opportunities they get in terms of play calling and blocking than he suddenly sucks and will never run for mor than 20 years in a game in the rest of his life.

[auroraave]

Am i the only one who noticed but it seemed like they only ever ran left today, never right, until one time in the late 4th quarter. I know they like Cross and Zabel, and dont like running at TJ Watt, but you gotta mix it up a bit!

Why run at the strength of the defense? That gives them the advantage, theoretically. Seems like the run game was clicking on the left side - why mess with success? While your philosophy isn't wrong, seems to me Kubiak called a good game in that they stayed away from Pitt's strength - isn't that smart play calling? Also, the left side may be seattle's strength with Zabel there. Also, we can make a joke here that there were many right side runs, but Walker just danced and bounced 'em back to the left.

Not to mention when you move left of center you always run into a bunch of weaklings. lol

ZING!

Well played, DT! Are you a permanent Wenatcheean now?

[D-train]

Why run at the strength of the defense? That gives them the advantage, theoretically. Seems like the run game was clicking on the left side - why mess with success? While your philosophy isn't wrong, seems to me Kubiak called a good game in that they stayed away from Pitt's strength - isn't that smart play calling? Also, the left side may be seattle's strength with Zabel there. Also, we can make a joke here that there were many right side runs, but Walker just danced and bounced 'em back to the left.

Not to mention when you move left of center you always run into a bunch of weaklings. lol

ZING!

Well played, DT! Are you a permanent Wenatcheean now?

Yes I am! Love it. My Uber driver career has been on hold for a couple weeks though as the idiots at Kia are scouring the forests of Korea looking for a bolt to replace the one that broke on the differential after 6500 miles.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Imagine if the Seahawks had hired Monte Kohler as their head coach. They could be running a wing T and doing geometry in the meeting rooms. Good governor, can you not enjoy a win without bitching about something?

I said they seemed to be on the right track. Yeah, Walker had a great game and it was encouraging to see Kupp, Horton , and Arroyo make some plays. Defense looked good too.

So, Walker goes off for over a hundred and has the back breaking TD run in the 4th - and your concerned because Charbonnet didn't also? C'mon dude.

No, you come on. I brought it up as what i considered one of the more compelling issues from the game and certainly what would have to be considered a major statistical outlier for any decent RB. Got any theories about what happened?

[Donn Beach]

Why something happened, you know that's right in my wheelhouse. Here is some fantasy stuff for Walker. I commented about riding him but they really weren't. The two split carries. I think it was more speculation that he'd get less carries than Chardonnet.

Kenneth Walker III has become fantasy football’s most polarizing running back through two weeks, generating more start/sit anxiety than any other top-50 ADP player heading into Week 2. After a disastrous opener that saw him traded away more than any other player, Walker delivered his best performance in one crucial metric, creating a fascinating case study in player volatility.

Walker’s dramatic turnaround from Week 1 to Week 2 tells a compelling story about rushing efficiency. After posting the league’s worst gain rate at just 50% in the season opener, Walker exploded in Week 2 with 30.8% of his carries going for 10+ yards. This represents the best single-game performance of his career in this metric, based on games with at least 10 carries.

The improvement wasn’t just marginal. Walker transformed from the least effective rusher in football to posting elite explosive play numbers in the span of one week.

[douche]

Metcalfdropsemburgh... pretty good.

[D-train]

Great numbers in here! Enjoy! I did!!!

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/nfl/seat ... in/1822207

[auroraave]

Imagine if the Seahawks had hired Monte Kohler as their head coach. They could be running a wing T and doing geometry in the meeting rooms. Good governor, can you not enjoy a win without bitching about something?

I said they seemed to be on the right track. Yeah, Walker had a great game and it was encouraging to see Kupp, Horton , and Arroyo make some plays. Defense looked good too.

So, Walker goes off for over a hundred and has the back breaking TD run in the 4th - and your concerned because Charbonnet didn't also? C'mon dude.

No, you come on. I brought it up as what i considered one of the more compelling issues from the game and certainly what would have to be considered a major statistical outlier for any decent RB. Got any theories about what happened?

Who knows why? Maybe K9 was just so motivated - maybe Pitts scheme works in K9's favor, there are millions of variables. CHarbs is more a north south runner and, K9 likes his little lateral movement. The reality is Seattle has a very talented back field and both the 1 and 2 backs can go OFF on any given Sunday. This is not a problem it's an ASSET. Human beings are human beings - this is not a Madden simulation. It's not that CHarbonnet was bad, it's that K9 was that good - it was just his day. Rashaad Penny spent so much time on the bench - and then out of no where he would blow the doors off a defense. It's just how shit works sometimes. The glass is half full.

[Donn Beach]

interesting article from Mike Vorel, he points out how the seahawks seemed to live up to the requirments MM set when he moved on from Grubb. But the fact is its really only been one half of football out of four played so far, is it sustainable? Someone was complaining about darnold's ability to lead. I have seen a number of players claim they like his style. Leadership can be more keeping your head when things get tough than being emotional about it

By Mike Vorel
Seattle Times
PITTSBURGH – The Seahawks’ offense has a mission statement.

In explaining the firing of former offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb in January, second-year Seahawks coach Mike Macdonald said: “We want our offense to be a physical unit, dictate terms to the defense and play complementary football and get the ball to our playmakers frequently in space. Let our quarterback play fast.”

On Sunday, in a 31-17 win against the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Seahawks mirrored the mission statement.

It just took a little time.

The Seahawks sputtered through an unimpressive, frustrating first half, outgaining Pittsburgh 188 to 69 but trailing 14-7. After tallying an opening-drive touchdown for the first time in 23 games, they succumbed to sloppiness, as kicker Jason Myers banged a 36-yard field-goal attempt off the left upright and quarterback Sam Darnold coughed up a pair of picks.

A week ago, the New York Jets effectively pummeled Pittsburgh’s defense – recording 182 rushing yards, 4.7 yards per carry and three rushing scores.

On Sunday, the Seahawks managed 39 rushing yards, 3.0 yards per carry, seven points and two turnovers in a feeble first half.

For six consecutive quarters to start the season, this was not a physical unit. It did not dictate terms to any defense. It did not play complementary football or get the ball to playmakers (not named Jaxon Smith-Njigba) in space. It did not let Darnold, who totaled three turnovers and one touchdown in that span, play particularly fast – or efficient.

So, why were the Seahawks so confident to start the second half?

“It might not have felt that way, but our guys knew what the situation was,” Darnold said. “We knew we were going to be able to go out there and play really good football, and I felt like we did that.”

In the second half, Macdonald’s mission statement started to take hold. Running back Kenneth Walker III carried eight times for 79 yards in the second half alone, sealing the win with a 19-yard touchdown scamper on third-and-goal with 3:41 left. The 5-foot-9, 211-pounder crossed the century mark for the first time since the 2024 season opener, finishing with 105 rushing yards (8.1 YPC) and the cementing score.

Physical unit, check.

“I’m always confident in our guys, that we’ll be able to go third-and-19, no matter what, and we’ll be able to score,” Darnold said of Walker’s touchdown. “But I was pitching it and just telling him, ‘Stay in bounds here. We need the clock to run,’ getting ready to send the field goal unit on. Sure enough, he breaks a couple tackles and I knew he had a chance.

“But Ken’s got a chance every single play he touches the rock.”

More Seahawks received chances to touch the rock Sunday. After Smith-Njigba saw a whopping 56.5% of the targets in the Week 1 loss to San Francisco, six Seahawks caught passes in Pittsburgh. Smith-Njigba remained steady, recording a team-high eight catches (on 10 targets) for 103 yards. But wide receivers Cooper Kupp (seven catches, 90 yards) and Tory Horton (two catches for 32 yards and his first career TD) and tight ends AJ Barner (two catches, 26 yards, 1 TD) and Elijah Arroyo (two catches, 31 yards) also contributed.

Getting the ball to playmakers frequently in space, check.

“This offense is designed to get the ball to everybody,” Macdonald said. “I felt like it did that today.”

More specifically, Darnold did that, shaking off two turnovers to complete 9 of 14 passes for 138 yards and a touchdown in the second half. That included a third-and-nine improvisation, in which Darnold spun left to avoid a blitz and flipped the ball to Barner for an improbable 19-yard gain. He followed that with a 43-yard rainbow to Smith-Njigba that set up Walker’s 19-yard score.

Let the quarterback play fast, check.

“He’s just a great leader,” Walker said of Darnold, who completed 22 of 33 passes for 295 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions. “He kept his head on straight. He didn’t pout over an interception. He stayed positive and started throwing touchdowns.”

Added Darnold: “Our defense and our special teams, the way they played throughout that first half kept us in the game. It felt like we were finally able to play the style of ball that we wanted to in the second half.”

Complementary football, check.

But, with that said: Is it sustainable? The Seahawks picked on a Pittsburgh defense that has surrendered 63 total points in its first two games. The Steelers were without four defensive starters – cornerback Joey Porter Jr., safety DeShon Elliott, defensive tackle Derrick Harmon and outside linebacker Alex Highsmith.

The Seahawks defense, which excelled even without Devon Witherspoon, is good enough to do damage in the NFC West. It’s the offense that’ll ultimately determine their ceiling.

Because fans can’t count on a kickoff bouncing through an opponent’s hands for a game-turning touchdown every week. They can’t count on another diving end-zone interception from cornerback Derion Kendrick, on a ball that was fatefully batted into the air.

They need the Seahawks’ offense to match their mission statement.

They did so in the second half.

“Honestly, I’m most excited about where we’re going,” Macdonald said. “I’ve seen us execute throughout the offseason. I saw us be disappointed after last week, and I’ve seen us have resolve and bounce back and be determined about getting better and committed to this team.

“It’s easy to lose hope after you get that initial feedback that it might not be working. But our guys are trusting the process and they’re sticking to it.”

[Donn Beach]

Imagine if the Seahawks had hired Monte Kohler as their head coach. They could be running a wing T and doing geometry in the meeting rooms. Good governor, can you not enjoy a win without bitching about something?

I said they seemed to be on the right track. Yeah, Walker had a great game and it was encouraging to see Kupp, Horton , and Arroyo make some plays. Defense looked good too.

So, Walker goes off for over a hundred and has the back breaking TD run in the 4th - and your concerned because Charbonnet didn't also? C'mon dude.

No, you come on. I brought it up as what i considered one of the more compelling issues from the game and certainly what would have to be considered a major statistical outlier for any decent RB. Got any theories about what happened?

Who knows why? Maybe K9 was just so motivated - maybe Pitts scheme works in K9's favor, there are millions of variables. The reality is seattle has a very talented back field and both the 1 and 2 backs can go OFF on any given Sunday. This is not a problem it's an ASSET. Human beings are human beings - this is not a Madden simulation. It's not that CHarbonnet was bad, it's that K9 was that good - it was just his day. Rashaad Penny spent so much time on the bench - and then out of no where he would blow the doors off a defense. It's just how shit works sometimes. The glass is half full.

yeah, my takeaway is much more they seem to have a pair of talented RBs rather than being concerned about charbonnet. Its going to be interesting to me how they use them. Pete would talk about RB by committee but they always seemed to rely mostly on a single back. I get the feeling MM might really try it