So the left promotes violence... What do you guys think of this nutbag?

[DanielVogelbach]

Then your rants are hollow and meaningless. Either live by what you espouse or stop being a hypocrite.

Okay buddy. Who should I vote for?

Seriously, you have zero clue about voluntaryism or objective morality. You think I don't have a clue about partisan politics. My posts aren't meaningless. They are about voluntaryism and objective morality. They are anti statism, because statism causes massive atrocities like war, poverty, sickness, and slavery. How are those topics meaningless? They are the exact problems you want your "government" to fix, which is a mental disorder because they are all problems that the "government" created.

[bpj]

I live about as far at the fringes of society as is possible while still having phone and internet.

Things like off-grid, permaculture, homeschool, foodforests, self-reliance, bartering, earth ships, gold/silver/crypto, and black markets are all things that can move the needle away from enslavement and towards freedom. However, while moving to the edge of society can serve the individual, it doesn't do that much to actually attack the satanic cults. For that, you do have to engage with people. Truthfully, I am not much of an activist. But, I am doing more than any statist trying to figure out who they are going to vote for in the next meaningless election. I'm also not a cop, soldier or a schoolteacher.

I recognize that in many ways I'm a wimp and I don't fight back. But, that's different than thinking I'm some badass patriot voting for Republicans and not being real about the role I play in the machine. I literally work for a company that sells computers to school districts.

It can be a little scary to speak my truth. I feel like these forums are a safe place for me to say what I'm thinking.

Some of the best people who are actively speaking on these topics are Larken Rose and Mark Passio. Just binge on those guys for a while and you'll start to see where I'm coming from. I could try and go that route, but it's difficult when you don't learn about this stuff until you are in your 40s.

Most people are not evil and generally go out of their way to avoid conflict. They are voluntaryists at heart. They just don't know it yet. You just have to break down that nobody can delegate rights they don't have themselves. Therefore, if you can't morally steal money from your neighbor to pay for something that you want, then you can't delegate that right to a so-called "representative". There is NOTHING that happens by adding a fancy flag and capitol building that changes the morality. It's still theft without consent.

Once you simplify to the point where it's either advocating for robbing your neighbor at gunpoint or advocating for a free society based on consensual contracts, then things start clicking.

You obviously know that I'm doing something different, because nobody else on these forums has ever once uttered the words voluntaryism, natural law, or objective morality. The reason I 'm bringing up these terms, is because there is no way for humanity to become free unless I do.

I appreciate the insight where you're coming from.

I'm much in the same boat.

Personally, I don't think you have time to convert enough people to voluntaryism, natural law, or objective morality before you're crushed by the system that actually has power. Nobody has any idea what you've been going on about.

The "deep state" as people seem more comfortable calling them, are already in the final stages. We can all see things are accelerating the last year, two years, five years.

In my opinion, there's one group at the head of the beast.

Then, they use people through their organizations, who don't always even know they're being used to advance the agenda. People like the talking heads on tv that obviously push a narrative.

Or one of their other organizations, as you mentioned, the church of satan, founded by Anton LaVey (Jewish).

It's great that you're fighting back. You've just been doing a lot of talking without ever offering solutions. Perhaps get to your point of how to fix problems instead of just telling everyone what they're doing wrong if you want to inform.

[DanielVogelbach]

It's great that you're fighting back. You've just been doing a lot of talking without ever offering solutions. Perhaps get to your point of how to fix problems instead of just telling everyone what they're doing wrong if you want to inform.

The main solution is to lose the indoctrination and move outside of the cult-like thinking. I just listed some of the practical ideas that people in the freedom community promote - permaculture, foodforests, bartering, intentional communities, tax evasion, black markets, stop participating in politics, homeschool your kids, gold, silver, crypto, grow your own food, raise your own livestock, and spread the good word of voluntaryism and objective morality.

Check out Mark Passio. Check out Larken Rose. Thank me later.

I'm not just talking about the Church of Satan. I would also label the "jews" that you notice as a sect of satanism. To me, satanism is the idea of willfully harming other people to further your own wealth, pleasure, etc.

I guess I am just a supreme conspiracy theorist, because I question the convenience of the Jews being behind everything. I've noticed it becoming them becoming a convenient enemy, and I think that might be by design. You don't think the Vatican is tied in to all this shit? The Financial sector in the City of London?

To me the most important aspect for moving towards more freedom for humanity is for people to recognize the role that they play in the machine rather than looking at themselves as innocent and everyone else is the problem. That's the evil genius of the system. What can the jews do if nobody sends their kids to school or pays taxes or signs up for the military or police force?

The jews can put in a system that incentivizes people to enslave each other, but nobody is forced to comply. The answer is not to vote in some new "leader". The answer is for people to learn that there is nobody with any legitimate authority to bind them to contracts they didn't consent to.

[bpj]

It's great that you're fighting back. You've just been doing a lot of talking without ever offering solutions. Perhaps get to your point of how to fix problems instead of just telling everyone what they're doing wrong if you want to inform.

The main solution is to lose the indoctrination and move outside of the cult-like thinking. I just listed some of the practical ideas that people in the freedom community promote - permaculture, foodforests, bartering, intentional communities, tax evasion, black markets, stop participating in politics, homeschool your kids, gold, silver, crypto, grow your own food, raise your own livestock, and spread the good word of voluntaryism and objective morality.

Check out Mark Passio. Check out Larken Rose. Thank me later.

I'm not just talking about the Church of Satan. I would also label the "jews" that you notice as a sect of satanism. To me, satanism is the idea of willfully harming other people to further your own wealth, pleasure, etc.

I guess I am just a supreme conspiracy theorist, because I question the convenience of the Jews being behind everything. I've noticed it becoming them becoming a convenient enemy, and I think that might be by design. You don't think the Vatican is tied in to all this shit? The Financial sector in the City of London?

To me the most important aspect for moving towards more freedom for humanity is for people to recognize the role that they play in the machine rather than looking at themselves as innocent and everyone else is the problem. That's the evil genius of the system. What can the jews do if nobody sends their kids to school or pays taxes or signs up for the military or police force?

The jews can put in a system that incentivizes people to enslave each other, but nobody is forced to comply. The answer is not to vote in some new "leader". The answer is for people to learn that there is nobody with any legitimate authority to bind them to contracts they didn't consent to.

As far as Catholicism goes, I believe it's the pharisaic version of Christianity.

The people Jesus warned about got their fingers on it.

Rituals based on human traditions. Clutching their beads. Creating idols in Peter and Mary.

The teachings of the Pharisees were the foundation of the Jewish Talmud. The converts to Christianity made a hybrid, now we have Catholicism.

[Seattle or Bust]

Then your rants are hollow and meaningless. Either live by what you espouse or stop being a hypocrite.

Okay buddy. Who should I vote for?

Seriously, you have zero clue about voluntaryism or objective morality. You think I don't have a clue about partisan politics. My posts aren't meaningless. They are about voluntaryism and objective morality. They are anti statism, because statism causes massive atrocities like war, poverty, sickness, and slavery. How are those topics meaningless? They are the exact problems you want your "government" to fix, which is a mental disorder because they are all problems that the "government" created.

You shouldn’t be voting for anyone.

You should be living off the grid and convincing your people of your message through word of mouth on foot… instead of parading around like the hypocrite you are.

[bpj]

Then your rants are hollow and meaningless. Either live by what you espouse or stop being a hypocrite.

Okay buddy. Who should I vote for?

Seriously, you have zero clue about voluntaryism or objective morality. You think I don't have a clue about partisan politics. My posts aren't meaningless. They are about voluntaryism and objective morality. They are anti statism, because statism causes massive atrocities like war, poverty, sickness, and slavery. How are those topics meaningless? They are the exact problems you want your "government" to fix, which is a mental disorder because they are all problems that the "government" created.

You shouldn’t be voting for anyone.

You should be living off the grid and convincing your people of your message through word of mouth on foot… instead of parading around like the hypocrite you are.

There has been a preachy tone there that's a bit counter to the reality he laid out.

Think I saw him lol at licensing, but has a job selling computers that probably depend on licensing for the software. He probably has a drivers license. Probably has an electric bill. Or natural gas bill. Propane. Water. Lives in a culdesac. Whatever the case. Not practicing what he preaches it seems.

Very "do as I say, not as I do".

Anyways, now that he's taken the opportunity to explain how we should be living and who we should be following on youtube, maybe we'll see some more real world discussion out of him.

He has a good vision, but politically, just screaming into a void. Which he of course has no problem with because he's outside of politics altogether anyways.

[DanielVogelbach]

Okay buddy. Who should I vote for?

Seriously, you have zero clue about voluntaryism or objective morality. You think I don't have a clue about partisan politics. My posts aren't meaningless. They are about voluntaryism and objective morality. They are anti statism, because statism causes massive atrocities like war, poverty, sickness, and slavery. How are those topics meaningless? They are the exact problems you want your "government" to fix, which is a mental disorder because they are all problems that the "government" created.

You shouldn’t be voting for anyone.

You should be living off the grid and convincing your people of your message through word of mouth on foot… instead of parading around like the hypocrite you are.

There has been a preachy tone there that's a bit counter to the reality he laid out.

Think I saw him lol at licensing, but has a job selling computers that probably depend on licensing for the software. He probably has a drivers license. Probably has an electric bill. Or natural gas bill. Propane. Water. Lives in a culdesac. Whatever the case. Not practicing what he preaches it seems.

Very "do as I say, not as I do".

Anyways, now that he's taken the opportunity to explain how we should be living and who we should be following on youtube, maybe we'll see some more real world discussion out of him.

He has a good vision, but politically, just screaming into a void. Which he of course has no problem with because he's outside of politics altogether anyways.

Example #1 --> Someone shows up to your door with a gun and a pizza. They say give me $500 or I will kill you. you pay them. They leave the pizza at your doorstep...... It's okay to eat the pizza... Translation... if they extort half your wealth through taxation and inflation, then it's okay for you do drive on the road or call the cops if someone is robbing you. Get it? Should also mention that the amount we pay in taxes is waaaaaay more than the serfs paid feudalism, and our freedoms are waaaaay less than they were during British Colonial rule.

Where you want to go on YT is Larken Rose and Mark Passio. They are the best of the best of the best. Larken is actually on YT and has also wrote a book that was very influential for me to kind of give me that last little push completely out of the cult of statism. That book is called "The Most Danegerous Supersition" and there is an audio book version on YT. Larken also did the feature film "Jones Plantation"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y460qLK0-ZA

I loled at the fact that SeattleorBust was showing me a picture of a conservative politician threatening to take away a nurse's license for celebrating Charlie Kirks's death. a) Of course I support free speech b) of course I don't support any politician left or right and c) I made a comment that nobody should need a license to do anything.

Licensing = "governemnt" taking away your rights and then selling them back to you. Driver's license, fishing license, beautician license... all nonsense. The free market only requires trust and reputation to work.

What would be moral would be some type of membership to drive on a private road. But, not the driver's license, which is similar to the passport. Those are apparatuses of controlling the livestock and limiting our freedom of movement.

Of course, it would be more "walking the walk" to get rid of the driver's license, go off grid, stop paying taxes, etc. But that doesn't change the arguments one bit or make them any less valid. It doesn't make me a hypocrite, because I AM NOT THE ONE DEMANDING THAT ANYONE OBTAIN A LICENSE. I am just sometimes choosing to obey the rules laid down by the tyrants. But, I appreciate the thoughts. That means you're actually considering what's being presented.

Non-Compliance is the path to freedom. But, it's not easy. It's not as easy as the fantasy of just going in a little closet with a curtain and selecting a straight red or blue ticket and then blaming all the worlds problems on the other side of the fake political aisle.

I do attend liberty events.

https://government-scam.com/libertyevents/

I know what the vibe is like at these events. With just a simple mindset change, that vibe could be pushed further into general society.

I'm maybe not the world's most intense activist for liberty. But, I've done more advocating for true liberty and morality on this forum than anyone else has. I also take physical possession of gold and silver to put pressure on the derivatives market. Same thing with crypto custody.

But, largely, there is nothing you really have to do. If the idea that people have a right to rule over you dissolves, then everything changes. It's not really a matter of doing anything other than STOP STEALING FROM PEOPLE. No more rape, extortion, murder, assault, etc Statists stand for the opposite, but they're so caught up in politics they can't see it.