Broom, please & Fat Lady Singing~no E witches here~GT~9.14.25

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Re: Broom, please & Fat Lady Singing~no E witches here~GT~9.14.25

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:33 pm

I am not going to debate fwar to bwar, i use bwar, always have always will. I don't even know where to find fwar. I had comped Williamson to Bell but maybe an even better one could be little O. I know Omar was a SS but I am not really going to care. It could be Williamson changes positions but that would mean finding another 3rd baseman. I am not against doing that but I don't think it needs to be driven by ops. Anyway Omar makes Ben look like a power hitter, he didn't break a .600 ops until his 3rd season in the majors. Deal is, as I feel is the case with Ben, Omar could handle a bat. Basically i am not concerned where to hit Williamson in the lineup. I think you look at your roster, you want a certain amount of power, obp, bat to ball. I think the mariners have a pretty good mixture actually. You shouldn't need to be required to get a certain skill at a certain position

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Re: Broom, please & Fat Lady Singing~no E witches here~GT~9.14.25

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:53 pm

It's relative actually, my point is, between say Suarez at $30:mil over two seasons or Williamson, I probably go with Williamson.

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Re: Broom, please & Fat Lady Singing~no E witches here~GT~9.14.25

Post by D-train » Tue Sep 16, 2025 12:41 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 9:33 pm
I am not going to debate fwar to bwar, i use bwar, always have always will. I don't even know where to find fwar. I had comped Williamson to Bell but maybe an even better one could be little O. I know Omar was a SS but I am not really going to care. It could be Williamson changes positions but that would mean finding another 3rd baseman. I am not against doing that but I don't think it needs to be driven by ops. Anyway Omar makes Ben look like a power hitter, he didn't break a .600 ops until his 3rd season in the majors. Deal is, as I feel is the case with Ben, Omar could handle a bat. Basically i am not concerned where to hit Williamson in the lineup. I think you look at your roster, you want a certain amount of power, obp, bat to ball. I think the mariners have a pretty good mixture actually. You shouldn't need to be required to get a certain skill at a certain position
fangraphs.com Great site. BW can't play SS in MLB. You know Ben had a sub .300 OBP right? No power and doesn't take walks. A starvation diet on death row for a hitter these days.
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Re: Broom, please & Fat Lady Singing~no E witches here~GT~9.14.25

Post by D-train » Tue Sep 16, 2025 12:44 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 11:53 pm
It's relative actually, my point is, between say Suarez at $30:mil over two seasons or Williamson, I probably go with Williamson.
The only reason I won't hate it being BW is because there are zero other good options other than Murikami but again the ban on Japanese players needs to be lifted.
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Re: Broom, please & Fat Lady Singing~no E witches here~GT~9.14.25

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 16, 2025 2:09 am

I have made a conscious decision not to bother with war anymore than I have, if they want to have two of them fine. I am not going to spend time trying to figure out two of them.

Williamson can play short stop, that's why i figure his true highest and best use could be utility, which in in my mind a noble occupation. He also has played outfield so he has super utility potential

AI Overview

Yes, Ben Williamson has the tools to play shortstop, though he is primarily known as a strong defensive third baseman. He has spent time at shortstop during his college career and in the minor leagues, with some scouts suggesting he could make a successful transition. His defensive instincts, arm strength, and instincts at the position are considered plus-plus traits by some.
Evidence for Williamson's shortstop potential
College experience: He saw time at shortstop during his freshman season at the College of William and Mary.
Scouting reports: Scouts have provided positive feedback on his ability to play shortstop, with some seeing him as a potential future shortstop.
Defensive tools: His above-average arm strength and quick exchange have been noted, along with elite instincts, which are all valuable for a shortstop.
Expert opinions: Assistant General Manager Andy McKay has stated that Williamson can move to shortstop when needed.
Factors to consider
Primary position: While capable of playing shortstop, Williamson has established himself as a highly-rated defensive third baseman, a role where his instincts and range are exceptionally valuable.
Developing aspects: His experience playing "straight up" at third base, a position different from shortstop, indicates a need to further refine his skills for the demands of the shortstop position.

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