PFF grades thread

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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Sep 28, 2025 2:24 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 7:22 pm
Offensive line grades through first three games (site hasn't released grades from AZ game)...

Charles Cross: 81.1 (pass 81.7 run 75.6)
Grey Zabel: 60.7 (pass 57.9 run 59.6)
Jalen Sundell: 57.0 (pass 66.7 run 53.5)
Anthony Bradford: 50.4 (pass 29.6 run 55.6)
Abraham Lucas: 64.3 (pass 64.2 run 60.8)
so about the same as last season?

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:03 am

Yes, those grades are almost exactly the same as last year. Slightly worse at center and slightly better at RT.

Tariq Woolen with a 40.4 grade so far. That's a fail...

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:13 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:03 am
Yes, those grades are almost exactly the same as last year. Slightly worse at center and slightly better at RT.

Tariq Woolen with a 40.4 grade so far. That's a fail...
so the players haven't improved but haven't they improved as a line? They are second in the league in sacks allowed?

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:43 am

Seems that way. Better playcalling might explain it as well.

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:04 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:43 am
Seems that way. Better playcalling might explain it as well.
well I wasn't going to say better but there's a synergy to it. I got the impression it was lacking last season. I am going to stick my neck out and claim you don't really need a great offensive line. But you do need it to function properly. That's the aspect i think gets harder to quantify terms of individual grades. See how it goes, if they can improve on their run performance. See if they make any personnel changes, they have been signing some linemen

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:11 am

they are both tackles though, seems like guard is still the issue, probably more to do with the Jones injury
Brown joins fellow rookie Amari Kight as the second offensive tackle on the practice squad. Kight was elevated for swing tackle Josh Jones against Arizona in Week 4. Brown could be in the plans for Week 5 as he’ll have a full week of practice before the Seahawks host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday.Brown is also the Seahawks’ second rookie offensive lineman from Kansas, joining backup left guard Bryce Cabeldue, who the team drafted in the sixth round of the 2025 NFL Draft in April. Seattle has started former North Dakota State teammates Jalen Sundell and Grey Zabel on the offensive line to begin 2025 and could see the upside in reuniting another collegiate duo.Coming out of Kansas, NFL Analyst Lance Zierlein projected Brown as a Round 3-4 pick, classified as a “Good backup with the potential to develop into a starter”. He was a five-star recruit coming out of high school and has a prototypical OT build, but only started one full season in college and has inconsistencies in both his run and pass blocking skillsets. Seattle OL coach John Benton will have the opportunity to work with a high-upside project and see if he can get the most out of his NFL-worthy frame.

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by trharder » Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:20 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:13 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:03 am
Yes, those grades are almost exactly the same as last year. Slightly worse at center and slightly better at RT.

Tariq Woolen with a 40.4 grade so far. That's a fail...
so the players haven't improved but haven't they improved as a line? They are second in the league in sacks allowed?
Slingin' Sammy Darnold gets the ball out quicker.

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:30 am

"I think it's a team deal," Kubiak said. "It's protection. It's Sam making quick decisions. It's our receivers getting open. The guys have worked well together there."

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Michael K. » Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:05 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 7:22 pm
Offensive line grades through first three games (site hasn't released grades from AZ game)...

Charles Cross: 81.1 (pass 81.7 run 75.6)
Grey Zabel: 60.7 (pass 57.9 run 59.6)
Jalen Sundell: 57.0 (pass 66.7 run 53.5)
Anthony Bradford: 50.4 (pass 29.6 run 55.6)
Abraham Lucas: 64.3 (pass 64.2 run 60.8)
But all we needed was a Rookie Guard and Kubiak and his band of merry men? Wash, rinse and repeat with John Schneider O Lines. I hope Jody doesn't see these rankings? She'll give him another four year extension. The interior of this O Line is ass, and Lucas isn't much better.

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Michael K. » Tue Sep 30, 2025 3:06 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:43 am
Seems that way. Better playcalling might explain it as well.
Or the fact that they get a lead, run three dive plays and punt? Hard to give up sacks running dive and screen on third and long to set up the punt team.

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