M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney

[Pharmabro]

where's Olney getting his info?

If we're in on Skubal, who goes? (rotation wise, not package)

They love Kirby, hence his Gm 5 and Gm 7 nods. I think they're still extremely on Gilbert. Have to be high on Woo. Miller and Castillo seem to be the weak links. Maybe you do a heads up trade Miller for Skubal?

Tigers get, what, 4 yrs of Miller for Skubs in a walk year? Maybe you throw in Logan Evans or someone like Luis Suisbel/Dom Canzone as a sweetener?

Anderson

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Trading Anderson or Farmelo would be foolish, trading them both would be asinine

Even 1 year of adding Randy Johnson? vs two prospects that have not proven shit. Neither of those prospects are Griffey/ARod/ Harper/ Roki/Vlad ETc/

[Optimistic M's Fan]

I guess I'm in the minority around here, but I have NO interest in gutting our farm for only 1 season of a pitcher that could potentially blow out his arm. If we are trading away our best prospects, I want people that would be on our team for years. We already have good pitching. Sure, we could nitpick all day long about whether they are aces or not, but I'd wager 95% of the teams in the league would kill to have our rotation. For me, Emerson, Montes, Anderson, Sloan, Farmelo and Becker are off limits. Everyone else is fair game and can be traded to improve, but we need years of control to do it. We won't be a top 10 payroll team whether we like it or not so we need to be keeping productive players that will be cheap to stay competitive. Blowing it all for one year and then we are screwed is a dumb way to play. We dont have owners that will pay out year after year. We need to be smart and selective on how we use our best assets. We know he wont sign an extension and I sure as hell dont see us every paying a pitcher 40 mil a year on a 8-10 year deal. Even if we did, we would be stupid to do it. After year 5 we would be handcuffed to a shit deal that we couldn't get out of. (See De Grom, Castillo etc) I'd much rather get a few good solid hitters via trade like Duran and roll with what we have.

[Donn Beach]

Going after tarik skubal could make sense. It's really the same logic as going after Geno and Naylor at the deadline only extended over an entire season. It would have nothing to do with needing to extend him. It be a function of what it would take, geno and naylor turned out to be less than expected. Mariners have an abundance of trade capital, might as well start dealing some of it. And like with Lee, they could always flip him at the deadline if the season was disappointing.

Miller is an interesting trade piece, I saw him offered for Brennan donovan in an article. Miller for Skubal? Making the trade makes Miller expendable. What's Miller's value? That's one benefit from the playoffs, it raised his value. He has a ton of control and has shown success at the ML level, that's got value over a prospect

[GL_Storm]

Anderson

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Trading Anderson or Farmelo would be foolish, trading them both would be asinine

Even 1 year of adding Randy Johnson? vs two prospects that have not proven shit. Neither of those prospects are Griffey/ARod/ Harper/ Roki/Vlad ETc/

Skubal isn't Randy Johnson.

[Big_Maple]

I love the rumors, but they’re just clickbait.

The M’s will never drain the farm for a single player, especially for just one year.

Skubal and/or Skenes will go to the Dodgers, or the Yankees, or the Mets. There’s a fringe possibility of going to the Red Sox.

It’s fun to dream, but we need to come back down to earth.

[D-train]

I guess I'm in the minority around here, but I have NO interest in gutting our farm for only 1 season of a pitcher that could potentially blow out his arm. If we are trading away our best prospects, I want people that would be on our team for years. We already have good pitching. Sure, we could nitpick all day long about whether they are aces or not, but I'd wager 95% of the teams in the league would kill to have our rotation. For me, Emerson, Montes, Anderson, Sloan, Farmelo and Becker are off limits. Everyone else is fair game and can be traded to improve, but we need years of control to do it. We won't be a top 10 payroll team whether we like it or not so we need to be keeping productive players that will be cheap to stay competitive. Blowing it all for one year and then we are screwed is a dumb way to play. We dont have owners that will pay out year after year. We need to be smart and selective on how we use our best assets. We know he wont sign an extension and I sure as hell dont see us every paying a pitcher 40 mil a year on a 8-10 year deal. Even if we did, we would be stupid to do it. After year 5 we would be handcuffed to a shit deal that we couldn't get out of. (See De Grom, Castillo etc) I'd much rather get a few good solid hitters via trade like Duran and roll with what we have.

I am not sure how you don't get this but because it is only one year we won't need to gut the farm to get him. Prospects are just that, big maybe's. Would you have been devasted if we had traded Cole Young and Ben Williamson and Logan Evans for one year of Skubal and we won the WS this year???

[D-train]

Going after tarik skubal could make sense. It's really the same logic as going after Geno and Naylor at the deadline only extended over an entire season. It would have nothing to do with needing to extend him. It be a function of what it would take, geno and naylor turned out to be less than expected. Mariners have an abundance of trade capital, might as well start dealing some of it. And like with Lee, they could always flip him at the deadline if the season was disappointing.

Miller is an interesting trade piece, I saw him offered for Brennan donovan in an article. Miller for Skubal? Making the trade makes Miller expendable. What's Miller's value? That's one benefit from the playoffs, it raised his value. He has a ton of control and has shown success at the ML level, that's got value over a prospect

Geno obviously did but he hit the salami to give us a 3-2 lead in the ALCS. Naylor's best season prior to this season was 2.3 WAR. He put up 0.8 WAR for the D Backs in 4 months and 2.2 WAR for us in only 2 months. He stole 19 SBs and ZERO CSs for us. He was massively more than expectations.

Yes, Miller or even Kirby straight up for Naylor and in 2027 when Skubal is gone he gets replace by Anderson or JC.

[D-train]

I love the rumors, but they’re just clickbait.

The M’s will never drain the farm for a single player, especially for just one year.

Skubal and/or Skenes will go to the Dodgers, or the Yankees, or the Mets. There’s a fringe possibility of going to the Red Sox.

It’s fun to dream, but we need to come back down to earth.

The rumors are just that we are in on him as we should be. Where it the hell are you guys getting this drain the farm nonsense???? Maybe you guys are the clickbait. LOL

Why would the Dodgers Yankees are Mets drain there farms for one year of him. Are they all dumber than us????

[Big_Maple]

The rumors are just that we are in on him as we should be. Where it the hell are you guys getting this drain the farm nonsense???? Maybe you guys are the clickbait. LOL

Why would the Dodgers Yankees are Mets drain there farms for one year of him. Are they all dumber than us????

Google dat shit and AI comes up with something like this:

To acquire Tarik Skubal, a team would likely need to trade two or three top-100 prospects, as well as a major-league-ready player, because of his high value as a top-tier starting pitcher. The Detroit Tigers reportedly have a very high asking price, and any potential trade partner would also likely need the financial flexibility to sign him to a long-term extension, as his contract situation is a key factor in the trade rumors.

Key components of a potential trade package

• High-level prospects: The Tigers' asking price is expected to include a package of multiple top-100 prospects. Examples of players mentioned in hypothetical packages include SS Colt Emerson, RHP Bryce Miller, and other young talents.

• Major-league-ready talent: In addition to prospects, the Tigers would want a player already contributing at the major league level. One executive mentioned a package that could include a player like RHP George Kirby.

• Financial flexibility for an extension: Because Skubal is likely to command a long-term deal worth hundreds of millions of dollars, the team acquiring him would need to be able and willing to sign him to an extension to make the trade worthwhile.

Teams that could be involved:

Big-market teams with top farm systems and a willingness to spend on a star pitcher are seen as logical trade partners.
Potential contenders include the Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, and New York Mets

But that's just AI...what does it know?

Here's an article from MLB.com that speculates what a Skubal trade would net:

The Corbin Burnes trade from February 2024 is the most apples-to-apples example, as the Brewers dealt the 2021 NL Cy Young Award winner to the Orioles one year prior to free agency. Milwaukee received left-hander DL Hall and infielder Joey Ortiz, a pair of Top 100 prospects, along with a Competitive Balance Round A Draft pick (No. 34 overall).

Three executives cited the Burnes trade as a strong comp, though all of them believe the Tigers will be able to extract more for Skubal.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-executives ... tial-trade

D-Train - I don't disagree with you - the M's could pull this off. They have the farm. It wouldn't cripple the farm to make a trade for Skubal. But it would cost several highly touted prospects plus some MLB-ready talent. My guess is that Jerry and company will leave the rotation alone (if it ain't broke). If he goes after anybody with prospects it will be a position player. A Skubal/Skenes will be too costly relative to what it brings back, and frankly it doesn't seem like our style.

[Donn Beach]

The rumors are just that we are in on him as we should be. Where it the hell are you guys getting this drain the farm nonsense???? Maybe you guys are the clickbait. LOL

Why would the Dodgers Yankees are Mets drain there farms for one year of him. Are they all dumber than us????

Google dat shit and AI comes up with something like this:

To acquire Tarik Skubal, a team would likely need to trade two or three top-100 prospects, as well as a major-league-ready player, because of his high value as a top-tier starting pitcher. The Detroit Tigers reportedly have a very high asking price, and any potential trade partner would also likely need the financial flexibility to sign him to a long-term extension, as his contract situation is a key factor in the trade rumors.

Key components of a potential trade package

• High-level prospects: The Tigers' asking price is expected to include a package of multiple top-100 prospects. Examples of players mentioned in hypothetical packages include SS Colt Emerson, RHP Bryce Miller, and other young talents.

• Major-league-ready talent: In addition to prospects, the Tigers would want a player already contributing at the major league level. One executive mentioned a package that could include a player like RHP George Kirby.

• Financial flexibility for an extension: Because Skubal is likely to command a long-term deal worth hundreds of millions of dollars, the team acquiring him would need to be able and willing to sign him to an extension to make the trade worthwhile.

Teams that could be involved:

Big-market teams with top farm systems and a willingness to spend on a star pitcher are seen as logical trade partners.
Potential contenders include the Los Angeles Dodgers, New York Yankees, Boston Red Sox, and New York Mets

But that's just AI...what does it know?

Here's an article from MLB.com that speculates what a Skubal trade would net:

The Corbin Burnes trade from February 2024 is the most apples-to-apples example, as the Brewers dealt the 2021 NL Cy Young Award winner to the Orioles one year prior to free agency. Milwaukee received left-hander DL Hall and infielder Joey Ortiz, a pair of Top 100 prospects, along with a Competitive Balance Round A Draft pick (No. 34 overall).

Three executives cited the Burnes trade as a strong comp, though all of them believe the Tigers will be able to extract more for Skubal.

D-Train - I don't disagree with you - the M's could pull this off. They have the farm. It wouldn't cripple the farm to make a trade for Skubal. But it would cost several highly touted prospects plus some MLB-ready talent. My guess is that Jerry and company will leave the rotation alone (if it ain't broke). If he goes after anybody with prospects it will be a position player. A Skubal/Skenes will be too costly relative to what it brings back, and frankly it doesn't seem like our style.

There's a price you would pay for an entire season of Skubal isn't there if it would lead to a meaningful run at a WS. Taking shots at what that is really is pretty meaningless. The price for Geno and Baylor was lower than what was anticipated, nobody complained about that price did they?. It's just going into the season with the attitude of having a shot rather than waiting for the deadline. And again, if the season goes sideways trade him at the deadline and recoup the cost