A potential trade target for the M's

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by harmony » Fri Jun 12, 2026 3:58 pm

FWIW the ZiPS rest-of-season projections have Dominic Canzone with 0.6 WAR in 72 games, Luke Raley with 0.7 WAR in 65 games and Lourdes Gurriel Jr. with 0.6 WAR in 64 games.

Of course, Canzone is earning the league minimum and Raley $2.05 million this year while Gurriel has a 2026 salary of $13 million with a $14 million club option, or $5 million buyout, for 2027. The salaries alone should be a deal breaker.

One issue is whether A.J. Puk can return to his 2024 dominance.

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... tching-mlb

Puk's most recent rehab outing did not go well.

The report that spawned the trade proposal:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/06/ ... se-dh.html

Thanks again for the feedback. ;)

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Jun 12, 2026 4:54 pm

harmony wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2026 3:57 pm
Would anyone trade Luke Raley or Dominic Canzone (and a prospect) to Arizona for righthand-hitting outfielder Lourdes Gurriel Jr. and lefty reliever A.J. Puk?
Interesting ideas, but as others have pointed out, I am not sure it is an offensive upgrade.

I don’t know exactly what the M’s will (or should) do at the trade deadline. The internet is buzzing with speculation (and hopeful optimism) that the M’s take a run at Skubal. Of course that would be fun, but totally unrealistic. It’s not the bold move Mariners are known for. And we’d give up a lot for a rental guy that only pitches one out of every 5 games. Besides, our starting rotation is solid and there is promising talent waiting in the wings. We don’t need another starter.

We need bullpen help - Brash is out likely weeks to months. Muñoz has blown games and is less effective than he used to be. We need late inning help.

We also need offense. We are solidly in the middle of the pack in virtually every offensive stat. Our pitching alone can’t win games. We need a solid DH and upgraded corner outfielder.

Based on this, here is who I would target (this isn’t a fully baked set of trade proposals so much as it’s just the guys I would target before the trade deadline based on our needs)

Byron Buxton: he’s already been mentioned in this thread, and I would take a hard run at him. He’d be expensive, but he has two years left on his contract and he’s playing as well now as he did in his 20s. He’s batting about .260 with 18 homers this year, and he is a stud defensively (assuming he would be willing to move to a corner outfielder position). Jed be a huge offensive spark.

Aroldis Chapman. We need a better closer. I would say we go after Josh Hader, but the Astros are unlikely to trade him to the M’s no matter how far behind they are. His name is also been tossed around on this board as a trade target, so I have nothing fresh to offer here. Just go get him. The Red Sox are open for business.

RHP Rico Garcia. This guy would be electric as our setup guy. He’s an absolute beast right now, so he’d be expensive to get. But he’s earning $900k and comes with several years of team control. But every team in need of bullpen help will be all over this guy, so expect a bidding war. Check out these stats:

2026 Stats: 29 G, 27.0 IP, 8 H (2 HR), 31 K, 9 BB, 1.00 ERA

The Mariners have the assets in terms of prospects, and the budget to accommodate all of these trades. And they could put them solidly in World Series contention. The question is whether they are a serious team, willing to make bold moves - or not.
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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Hy Feiber » Fri Jun 12, 2026 5:05 pm

HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2026 1:31 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2026 4:10 pm
My #1 trade for a position player atm is Contreras. .897 OPS (.834 vs. RHPs and 1.058 OPS vs LHPs) just a bit better than Gurriel...

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I was thinking him too. He could spell Naylor at 1B.
So can I.

Naylor at 1B.

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Jun 12, 2026 5:06 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2026 2:28 pm
Thanks for the feedback! :D

Dominic Canzone and Luke Raley could have limited postseason value facing left-handers such as Max Fried, Carlos Rodon, Ryan Weathers, Tarik Skubal and Framber Valdez.

The Mariners currently rank last in the American League in wRC+ against lefties:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &pagenum=1
Absolutely, especially with Raley, but if you're going to have a right-handed hitter in his spot he needs to actually be GOOD. We've already wasted almost half the season on Refsnyder/Joe/Wisdom.

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:16 pm

Deal is, if they were to go after a right handed platoon bat at the deadline Gurriel is the sort of guy that get tossed around. I can't pull names out of my ass but I think it's unlikely to be like an All Star type that rakes from both sides of the plate. It's probably going to look like a pretty marginal improvement over Rysnyder

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:47 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:16 pm
Deal is, if they were to go after a right handed platoon bat at the deadline Gurriel is the sort of guy that get tossed around. I can't pull names out of my ass but I think it's unlikely to be like an All Star type that rakes from both sides of the plate. It's probably going to look like a pretty marginal improvement over Rysnyder
Why would you have to pull names out of your ass? Go to Fangraphs, check contracts, check where teams are on the standings.

They're also not going to go after a guy hitting for a .600 OPS.

Spencer Steer is an example. 183 wRC+ vs lefties. Plays 3rd and left field.

2 years of control. Reds falling out of contention.

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:56 pm

If you don't think Gurriel is the sort of player the mariners would go after for a RH platoon bat then you have more confidence in them than I do

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jun 13, 2026 12:00 am

Passan suggests Jo Adell
If not that, though, then Seattle could do worse than finding someone with right-handed pop who can play outfield (Jo Adell?)

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Jun 13, 2026 12:17 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2026 11:56 pm
If you don't think Gurriel is the sort of player the mariners would go after for a RH platoon bat then you have more confidence in them than I do
I don't really... of late they traded for Geno and Naylor who were raking with AZ.

In 2022 they traded for Jake Lamb who had a .770 OPS with the Dodgers.

In 2023 they had a little sell off, moving veteran rentals for prospects.

In 2024 they traded for Justin Turner who had a .722 OPS for Toronto. They traded for Randy who had a .712 OPS but a lot of control and far more pedigree.

Since they became competitive, every MLB bat they've acquired has at least been a league-average hitter.

Gurriel has stunk up the joint since '23, he's only controlled for 2 months, his cash isn't nothing, and he's a very poor defender.

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Re: A potential trade target for the M's

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jun 13, 2026 12:26 am

Not trying to defend Gurriel, but yeah. I could see them going after a two month rental, an older vet, not much defensive value a platoon dh against lefties. Filling Rysnyders role and not spending a lot to try to do it, some right handed pop.

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