2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

[D-train]

1. He is two years older

2. He would sign after Bauer and maybe a closer, know that this team finished 20-15 (93 win pace) with no bullpen and realize he could be a hero on team that breaks a 20 year drought and has a passionate fan base that plays in a great stadium with a roof and no humidity.

3. I would be willing to go up to 13 million a year.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

1. He is two years older

2. He would sign after Bauer and maybe a closer, know that this team finished 20-15 (93 win pace) with no bullpen and realize he could be a hero on team that breaks a 20 year drought and has a passionate fan base that plays in a great stadium with a roof and no humidity.

3. I would be willing to go up to 13 million a year.

I don't disagree that if they drop money on Bauer and sign a closer (Hendricks being my preference) that they should also go out and acquire big talent elsewhere.

Here's the issue: the M's have about a billion prospects that they've acquired and drafted who are waiting in the wings. When it comes time to compete, they need offload some of that talent to: 1. acquire franchise changing superstars for the competing window 2. simply offload prospects so you're not wasting potential trade capital because they're mega blocked.

The Padres and Astros are a prime example... they traded a good bulk of their prospects for talent because they simply had no other option and it just made sense to start moving people.

Pick the core 5-6 prospects that are going to lead your ball club to contention and get rid of the rest.

Signing expensive veterans at this juncture only adds to that dilemma in my opinion.

[bpj]

At the point the team enters what they consider their contention window, many of those prospects become pieces for trade to improve the MLB club.

They will keep their core, but having watched the Big 3, Hultzen/Paxton/Taijuan, I'm inclined to cash in a little from the pitching pool for talent at the MLB level.

Nothing wrong with going after a Brantley in FA, would be great Hanger insurance of nothing else.

But they have plenty of expendable pieces to go after a contender in 2021 by trading for a couple guys also. No reason not to field a winner in 2021.

[D-train]

1. He is two years older

2. He would sign after Bauer and maybe a closer, know that this team finished 20-15 (93 win pace) with no bullpen and realize he could be a hero on team that breaks a 20 year drought and has a passionate fan base that plays in a great stadium with a roof and no humidity.

3. I would be willing to go up to 13 million a year.

I don't disagree that if they drop money on Bauer and sign a closer (Hendricks being my preference) that they should also go out and acquire big talent elsewhere.

Here's the issue: the M's have about a billion prospects that they've acquired and drafted who are waiting in the wings. When it comes time to compete, they need offload some of that talent to: 1. acquire franchise changing superstars for the competing window 2. simply offload prospects so you're not wasting potential trade capital because they're mega blocked.

The Padres and Astros are a prime example... they traded a good bulk of their prospects for talent because they simply had no other option and it just made sense to start moving people.

Pick the core 5-6 prospects that are going to lead your ball club to contention and get rid of the rest.

Signing expensive veterans at this juncture only adds to that dilemma in my opinion.

Sure, I see your point. Just not sure if our second tier prospects will get us Lindor. If so then sign me up.

[AZOldDawg]

What we could really use, wishful thinking, is for the disgruntled Snell to demand a trade to his home town M's. We have the prospects. If that happened Darren would move back home or at least split the difference and buy the ST rental.

[D-train]

What we could really use, wishful thinking, is for the disgruntled Snell to demand a trade to his home town M's. We have the prospects. If that happened Darren would move back home or at least split the difference and buy the ST rental.

Yeah I am sure Snell is salivating to live out his life long dream to pitch in a 6 man rotation. lol

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

What we could really use, wishful thinking, is for the disgruntled Snell to demand a trade to his home town M's. We have the prospects. If that happened Darren would move back home or at least split the difference and buy the ST rental.

Yeah I am sure Snell is salivating to live out his life long dream to pitch in a 6 man rotation. lol

I always like bringing local talent back home...like Marco Gonzales.... Snell would be welcome for sure

[Coeurd’Alene J]

What we could really use, wishful thinking, is for the disgruntled Snell to demand a trade to his home town M's. We have the prospects. If that happened Darren would move back home or at least split the difference and buy the ST rental.

Yeah I am sure Snell is salivating to live out his life long dream to pitch in a 6 man rotation. lol

I always like bringing local talent back home...like Marco Gonzales.... Snell would be welcome for sure

Buy the spring training rental...lol

[D-train]

Snell contract sitch:

2017 24 Tampa Bay Rays $545,000 0.110 contracts
2019 26 Tampa Bay Rays $573,700 2.072 contract
2020 27 Tampa Bay Rays $7,600,000 3.072 contract
2021 28 Tampa Bay Rays $11,100,000 4.072
2022 29 Tampa Bay Rays $13,100,000
2023 30 Tampa Bay Rays $16,600,000 Salary increases based on 2019-22 Cy Young voting: $1m, $500k, $250k for each 1st, 2nd, 3rd-place finish

Cheaper than Kikuchi even in 2023.

[AZOldDawg]

Just for the record. Blake's grandparents live in my complex. I met his mother albeit before he signed his big TB contract and I quote Her, "Blake would like nothing more than to pitch for his home town Mariners". But you got to take the cash when it's offered.