2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

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Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:23 pm

Lamda wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:51 pm
Bauer wants 35 mill or more per year - worth it? Is he a legit #1 Ace? Is it time to get one? As we have stated - its about time to start spending money and not waiting till some grandiose time where the good players may not be available.
Jerry has convinced himself that flexen is the wiser choice

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Post by desbcoach » Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:40 pm

Lamda wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:51 pm
Bauer wants 35 mill or more per year - worth it? Is he a legit #1 Ace? Is it time to get one? As we have stated - its about time to start spending money and not waiting till some grandiose time where the good players may not be available.
I want an Ace but I think you quickly regret that contract. He hasnt been that good for long and attitude could be a problem if he isnt happy IMO

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Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:36 pm

Bauer should be worth every dollar....Just convinced Jerry’s not remotely interested and Jerry should try to improve this year, There’s no guarantee that the bidding will be crazy once baseball fills stadiums again. At the very least I would be all in on Sugano and a dynamite OF

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Post by Lamda » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:47 pm

His yearly dollar total might not be that appealing but at least he's only asking for a 5-6 year deal and not a 10 year deal trying to set a new total record for salary.

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Post by BaseHitDerby » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:22 pm

Heyman reported Tuesday the 29-year-old Cy Young winner is seeking a five-or-six-year deal for between $36 million and $40 million a season, which would tie or break Gerrit Cole’s MLB record $36 million in average annual value. Heyman also wrote that Bauer’s agent, Rachel Luba, declined comment.

Bauer, whom the Mets are in the hunt for, mocked Heyman over the report.

“Jon thank god for you. I’m learning so much about my free agency from your tweets! Keep em coming! Also @AgentRachelLuba is her twitter tag in case you want to tag her next time.”
People were hoping for only a 1-2 year deal at a high $35-40M/yr. No way would I give a 5-6 deal with that kind of money to a SP that only has 2 out of 7 full seasons with an ERA under 4.

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Post by harmony » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:24 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:16 pm
harmony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:40 pm
FanGraphs columnist Dan Szymborski has released his 2021 ZiPS projections for the Seattle Mariners:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2021-zips-p ... -mariners/
That was both in excellent and profoundly disturbing read. Thanks for posting.
A year ago ZiPS projected Marco Gonzales, Yusei Kikuchi and Justus Sheffield to combine for 4.9 fWAR in 89 appearances, including 85 starts:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-zips-p ... -mariners/

Instead this year the lefty trio combined for 4.7 fWAR in only 30 starts:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... =&enddate=

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by bpj » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:36 am

BaseHitDerby wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:22 pm
Heyman reported Tuesday the 29-year-old Cy Young winner is seeking a five-or-six-year deal for between $36 million and $40 million a season, which would tie or break Gerrit Cole’s MLB record $36 million in average annual value. Heyman also wrote that Bauer’s agent, Rachel Luba, declined comment.

Bauer, whom the Mets are in the hunt for, mocked Heyman over the report.

“Jon thank god for you. I’m learning so much about my free agency from your tweets! Keep em coming! Also @AgentRachelLuba is her twitter tag in case you want to tag her next time.”
People were hoping for only a 1-2 year deal at a high $35-40M/yr. No way would I give a 5-6 deal with that kind of money to a SP that only has 2 out of 7 full seasons with an ERA under 4.
Based on Bauers reaction to the reporting of his contract details, the ask probably IS $35-$40 million, whoever offers the most years wins.

Otherwise he can do the $30M over 5 years like any good pitcher. He's too old to give that contract imo.

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:47 am

harmony wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:24 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:16 pm
harmony wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:40 pm
FanGraphs columnist Dan Szymborski has released his 2021 ZiPS projections for the Seattle Mariners:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2021-zips-p ... -mariners/
That was both in excellent and profoundly disturbing read. Thanks for posting.
A year ago ZiPS projected Marco Gonzales, Yusei Kikuchi and Justus Sheffield to combine for 4.9 fWAR in 89 appearances, including 85 starts:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-zips-p ... -mariners/

Instead this year the lefty trio combined for 4.7 fWAR in only 30 starts:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx? ... =&enddate=
Yeah I think a lot of those projections are absurdly low.
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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by harmony » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:14 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:35 pm
Hey I am not a Trammel fan and I would be happy with the trade. I just don't think they will get a top 50 prospect for Joey Gallo. We shall see.
Taylor Trammell was interviewed on a podcast this week:

https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/stat ... 4039321601

The podcast references this "Baseball Is Not Black Enough" piece that Trammell wrote for The Players' Tribune in September:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/artic ... ammell-mlb

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Re: 2020-2021 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:51 pm

harmony wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:14 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:35 pm
Hey I am not a Trammel fan and I would be happy with the trade. I just don't think they will get a top 50 prospect for Joey Gallo. We shall see.
Taylor Trammell was interviewed on a podcast this week:

https://twitter.com/KleinschmidtJD/stat ... 4039321601

The podcast references this "Baseball Is Not Black Enough" piece that Trammell wrote for The Players' Tribune in September:

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/artic ... ammell-mlb
Well if he wants it blacker, he better get his OPS over .700.

The recent obsession with race is mind boggling to me. What ever happened to "judge not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character/WAR."
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