Uh oh!

Do you think the NFL's alliances with Sports books is good or bad?

It's good - as long as gambling is legal.
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It's okay, but I am wary it'll affect games eventually.
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No, this is bad, corruption will inevitably emerge.
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Total votes: 5

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ddraig
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Re: Uh oh!

Post by ddraig » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:10 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:28 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:05 pm
Perhaps some Chinese "investors" will be running the NFL in another decade after our economy implodes from Democrap policies and "leadership". Then it will just become a farce.
World is going to end in 8 years so all good.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 642481002/
Following in Al Gore's footsteps for making bad predictions, Saint Greta of Thunberg predicted the world would end this year (2023).

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by auroraave » Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:42 pm

Hahah - there are some hilarious comments here. I think realistically people should be able to gamble whereever it is legal. It is not my thing, never has been as I assume anything I am putting down I am losing, so I have no motivation. The problem with this situation is NFL players basically have insider information - they know the matchups, the unreported injuries, the beefs, there are so many pieces of data they have the general public does not - that is is the same as insider trading, IMO. They are incentivized to gamble - in the same way congressmen are all millionaires off on insider trading based on thier knowledge of legislation they are passing and the subsequent stock market manipulation that will follow.

it's only a matter of time. Imagine a 'bookie' who takes bets from a player - can now leverage that player or threaten to expose them. It's the logical progression. A dropped pass, a fumble, a missed assignment. It's inevitable that's where this leads.

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:57 pm

auroraave wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:52 pm
Players suspended for gambling. Just a matter of time until this plays out to the logical conclusion down the road - games being influenced by gambling. Anyone not seeing the trajectory are being willfully ignorant. When it's about the money - all bets are off. Oh, see what I did there?

Within 5 years I fully expect a major gambling scandal to break out - the league is ALL about gambling now - it just seems so obvious it's inevitable. Naturally the NFL will shrug their shoulders and say "ooooops!" like they always do and pretend nothing's wrong.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/362 ... ed-betting
You're probably right, but fuck it, let it play out.

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by douche » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:17 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:28 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:05 pm
Perhaps some Chinese "investors" will be running the NFL in another decade after our economy implodes from Democrap policies and "leadership". Then it will just become a farce.
World is going to end in 8 years so all good.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 642481002/
No, it won't end for 12 years. So we have lots of time :D

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by auroraave » Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:49 pm

Another player busted for gambling - this one apparently even betting on his own team. Nah, nothing to see here.
The hypocrisy of the NFL - taking millions from gambling sites like fan duel - encouraging gambling - while expecting the players - who have inside scoop - to avoid it. Kinda like expecting members of congress to avoid the stock market while passing bills that directly effect it.

Tick tock to the inevitable conclusion of games being influenced - and then the NFL shrugging it off with nonsense soundbites like "... just an isolated incident..." or "we take gambling very seriously." So predictable.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/378 ... le-betting.

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by D-train » Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:29 pm

Expecting people to not to cheat isn't a big ask.........expecting that none will is delusional. Integrity and honesty are tiny speed bumps for people ruled by greed.
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Re: Uh oh!

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:14 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:29 pm
Expecting people to not to cheat isn't a big ask.........expecting that none will is delusional. Integrity and honesty are tiny speed bumps for people ruled by greed.
That describes pretty well the people that sit atop the industries that you and Aurora work for. I guess that's why you both have such credible insights into the matter. Gil would be an expert on people that lack integrity and honesty as well given that he votes for them every 2 years.

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by auroraave » Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:21 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:29 pm
Expecting people to not to cheat isn't a big ask.........expecting that none will is delusional. Integrity and honesty are tiny speed bumps for people ruled by greed.
Well said. This is the third or 4th instance - recently - of these stories leaking - there is no way the problem isn't much worse. The bigger picture problem for the NFL is the loss of integrity - consumers consume the NFL assuming the games have integrity - when you add in suspect officiating (Seattle v Steelers anyone?) and now players gambling on the games - the average fan is getting ripped off. When the big one breaks - and it will - how will the NFL ever save face? How will you ever draw fans back? How could a consumer justify $500 to go to a game - when it may already be decided before the kickoff? That's where this is headed. Anyone not telegraphing this is being wilfully ignorant. Like you said - it's about being ruled greed. Pigs get fat, pigs get slaughtered. The NFL "We're all about safety!" Also the NFL: "We're adding more games!" The hypocrisy - it's on a level comparable to politicians.

We should start a thread where everyone gets to predict the "PR spin" the NFL ilk will try and con the public with when the big one falls. That would be priceless.

"Oh no, it's not a problem - it's one rogue player..." :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by SeattleAddict » Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:57 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:14 pm
Gil would be an expert on people that lack integrity and honesty as well given that he votes for them every 2 years.
everybody that votes is guilty of that, no matter who you vote for.

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Re: Uh oh!

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:09 pm

SeattleAddict wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:57 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:14 pm
Gil would be an expert on people that lack integrity and honesty as well given that he votes for them every 2 years.
everybody that votes is guilty of that, no matter who you vote for.
Sure politicians are generally loose with the facts and bend them to fit their purposes, but it is the leftists who now control every institution that live by lies and push the biggest ones.

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