Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

[D-train]

The exact quote from Divish was, "I am sure they have had internal discussions about him, they talk about every free agent"

[D-train]

btw last season Chapman put up 4.4 WAR and Rojas and Urias combine for 0.2 WAR last season.

[D-train]

According to Divish, the M's are still checking in on Chapman.

https://youtu.be/_MAmF-6t6LI?si=tWAQ4crENExEHXUl

start listening at the 9 minute mark. They are actually discussing whether it is better to add Chapman now and have a 4 win player for a FULL season vs. trading for a guy that will only be on the team for TWO months.

So the new guy would have to put of 4 WAR in 2 months, a 12 Win season pace to just Equal a full season of Chapman and these Experts are hemming and hawing about what is the better option. Holy Fuck there are so dumb people in this world.

[D-train]

Shoenfeld gives the off season a C

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1772734/ ... l-in-2024/

[D-train]

Here is what Divish actually said

[Donn Beach]

This isn’t ideal


https://x.com/marinermuse/status/175825 ... 6h74zg9Bow

Logan’s agent called it garbage. Wtf

I have been telling you guys this for a long time. They are saving up for something that will NEVER happen.

And if this year and the next 2-3 we end up saving our payroll and never experience a deep playoff run and never extend any of the young core with a billionaire Owner who cares more about his balance sheet than hoisting a trophy…………………………………………….

You say a billionaire owner, isn't he a bit under a billion? And ohtani, a single player signed for almost half his net worth. Think about it, that seems kinda incredible to me, modern baseball economics. I don't know if it's so much being cheap as being cautious

[GL_Storm]

I have been telling you guys this for a long time. They are saving up for something that will NEVER happen.

And if this year and the next 2-3 we end up saving our payroll and never experience a deep playoff run and never extend any of the young core with a billionaire Owner who cares more about his balance sheet than hoisting a trophy…………………………………………….

You say a billionaire owner, isn't he a bit under a billion? And ohtani, a single player signed for almost half his net worth. Think about it, that seems kinda incredible to me, modern baseball economics. I don't know if it's so much being cheap as being cautious

The thing is the ownership group is a partnership and we don't even know for sure that Stanton has the largest stake in the team. But none of the owners, as far as I know, are so rich that losses from their investment in the team don't matter the same way they don't matter to the wealthiest owners in the game. And I think a few of the owners are relative small fry, where losses and a capital call really would matter.

[D-train]

Maybe it is Griffey that is unwilling to step up to pay FAs!

[Donn Beach]

And if this year and the next 2-3 we end up saving our payroll and never experience a deep playoff run and never extend any of the young core with a billionaire Owner who cares more about his balance sheet than hoisting a trophy…………………………………………….

You say a billionaire owner, isn't he a bit under a billion? And ohtani, a single player signed for almost half his net worth. Think about it, that seems kinda incredible to me, modern baseball economics. I don't know if it's so much being cheap as being cautious

The thing is the ownership group is a partnership and we don't even know for sure that Stanton has the largest stake in the team. But none of the owners, as far as I know, are so rich that losses from their investment in the team don't matter the same way they don't matter to the wealthiest owners in the game. And I think a few of the owners are relative small fry, where losses and a capital call really would matter.

I was wondering that as well. Stanton has Lincoln's job doesn't he? Everyone acts like he's the owner I wondered if there had been a change, he had bought out the other owners but it's still the same situation, that group of owners. I think the team is managed to avoid a cash call like it's the plague

[Donn Beach]

The owners stepped up, saved baseball and all that. And they will make plenty of profit whenever the team is sold. But until then I think they view it pretty much as a passive investment. I don't believe they are tapping current profits but they aren't interested in investing anymore of their respective wealth. That could be solved of course by selling the team to a more aggressive owner.