Hawks vs. Da Bears

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:34 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:14 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:16 am


Yeah, everybody likes complaining about Geno...so? What's the plan? Give me an alternative
That's rich coming from you lol.
I don't understand, what should we do about it? Seems like a fair question to me
The fact that you never formulate an original idea but are demanding one from others in a post is hilarious.

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:37 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:26 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:11 am


And what about the Howell morons?
Oh you mean the guy who sat on the bench for 14 games and was asked to come in and perform off the bench after sitting in the 30* weather for an entire half all while never practicing with the 1's?

That guy?
C'mon he looked like shit meringue pie out there.
I didn't say he didn't.

But all of my points have merit.

What's Geno's excuse for this dog shit performance against a Chicago defense that gave up 34 and 30 in back to back weeks? You can't rail against Howell who was literally set up to fail and tickle Geno's nuts when all he does is get reps.

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:39 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:34 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:14 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 am


That's rich coming from you lol.
I don't understand, what should we do about it? Seems like a fair question to me
The fact that you never formulate an original idea but are demanding one from others in a post is hilarious.
Because I won't make fantasy trades, okay

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:41 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:39 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:34 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:14 am


I don't understand, what should we do about it? Seems like a fair question to me
The fact that you never formulate an original idea but are demanding one from others in a post is hilarious.
Because I won't make fantasy trades, okay
Then stop asking for fantasy trades from others when you won't do it yourself.

Just b/c people say Geno isn't the answer doesn't mean they need to have an answer themselves. They're fans... it's the FO's job to figure out how to not put a dogshit QB out there.

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:45 am

I'm not trying to argue the point, I'm curious what peoples feelings are about it. I brought up trading for Richardson just the other day, what do you think?

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:55 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:45 am
I'm not trying to argue the point, I'm curious what peoples feelings are about it. I brought up trading for Richardson just the other day, what do you think?
I think Richardson is horrible and I said every step of the way that the Hawks should not draft him.

He has a 47.7% completion %... his horrid completion % in college is why I said he would never make it in the pros... that coupled with his total lack of experience.

They should have signed Baker Mayfield a couple years ago when it was rumored that they were interested in signing him.

Hell, if the Jets don't want Aaron Rodgers... I'm giving him a 1-year deal and drafting a QB to sit behind him. Would say the same for Russell Wilson if he wants to come back.

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:52 am

Okay, Richardson was about athletic ability rather than skills. JS seemed high on him so I was curious if he might still be. But that's the thing, I can't see developing a draft pick without an interim player. So if it's not Geno then it's a FA or trade.

Here's the FA QBs coming up, anyone else look interesting?
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents ... osition/qb

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:15 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:37 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:26 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:40 am


Oh you mean the guy who sat on the bench for 14 games and was asked to come in and perform off the bench after sitting in the 30* weather for an entire half all while never practicing with the 1's?

That guy?
C'mon he looked like shit meringue pie out there.
I didn't say he didn't.

But all of my points have merit.

What's Geno's excuse for this dog shit performance against a Chicago defense that gave up 34 and 30 in back to back weeks? You can't rail against Howell who was literally set up to fail and tickle Geno's nuts when all he does is get reps.
All you did is describe the situation that almost every backup QB deals with. Regarding Geno i brought up numerous times in 2022/23 that he was #2 in the league in PFF's "turnover worthy plays" stat that season. For the most part i have said i regard him as an above avg QB, but i guess that is unreasonable compared to thinking Howell should be the starter.

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:09 pm

What's Geno's excuse? Ahhh, a bad knee and a shitty OC?

Field gulls
Grubb ran the ball more and still had a low play action rate. When he threw the ball it was all at the line of scrimmage, which I sort of get given the weather and the compromised state of Geno Smith’s health, but a screen to Pharaoh Brown?! Last week it was fake tossing to DK Metcalf behind the line of scrimmage and this week he pulls out something worse for a guy who’s had multiple drops on the season and is a known non-threat on offense.

Whatever you think about Geno Smith, his results with Shane Waldron were vastly superior to what we’re seeing with Grubb. He’s neither the first nor the last offensive coordinator to be restricted by his offensive line. Grubb’s results are the worst we’ve seen out of any first-year Seahawks OC since Jeremy Bates, who got the boot in 2010.
Geno Smith wasn’t very good and he’s not healthy. He should’ve been picked in the red zone (again) and the thought process that led him to pre-determine a tight window throw to Tyler Lockett was baffling. Smith’s hesitancy to scramble was also evident and you can’t blame him given the knee injury, but the near-interception seemed to impact his decision making to be as cautious as possible for the rest of the night. He’s also been liable to underthrow quite a few of his misfires in recent weeks. Officially he had a turnover-free game but he was fortunate to not have two. I’m still of the opinion that the issues regarding his season are much more to do with the circumstances around him than him specifically, but that was a worrying performance even without turnovers.

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Re: Hawks vs. Da Bears

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:56 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 2:09 pm
What's Geno's excuse? Ahhh, a bad knee and a shitty OC?

Field gulls
Grubb ran the ball more and still had a low play action rate. When he threw the ball it was all at the line of scrimmage, which I sort of get given the weather and the compromised state of Geno Smith’s health, but a screen to Pharaoh Brown?! Last week it was fake tossing to DK Metcalf behind the line of scrimmage and this week he pulls out something worse for a guy who’s had multiple drops on the season and is a known non-threat on offense.

Whatever you think about Geno Smith, his results with Shane Waldron were vastly superior to what we’re seeing with Grubb. He’s neither the first nor the last offensive coordinator to be restricted by his offensive line. Grubb’s results are the worst we’ve seen out of any first-year Seahawks OC since Jeremy Bates, who got the boot in 2010.
Geno Smith wasn’t very good and he’s not healthy. He should’ve been picked in the red zone (again) and the thought process that led him to pre-determine a tight window throw to Tyler Lockett was baffling. Smith’s hesitancy to scramble was also evident and you can’t blame him given the knee injury, but the near-interception seemed to impact his decision making to be as cautious as possible for the rest of the night. He’s also been liable to underthrow quite a few of his misfires in recent weeks. Officially he had a turnover-free game but he was fortunate to not have two. I’m still of the opinion that the issues regarding his season are much more to do with the circumstances around him than him specifically, but that was a worrying performance even without turnovers.
And Shane Waldron was ran out of town in Chicago in half a season.

I can admit that a QB's fit in a system matters. But Geno only had one good year... 2022... the rest cratering into mediocre to bad.

Great, we have a QB that's gun shy b/c he made the stupid ass decision to throw into double coverage at the 5 yard line. How awesome - great mentals for a 35 year old veteran.

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