So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by harmony » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:36 am

A current featured hypothetical trade at Baseball Trade Values has first baseman Yandy Diaz and third baseman Curtis Mead going to Seattle for Emerson Hancock, Lazaro Montes, Tai Peete and the Round A competitive balance pick:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/181711

The Steamer600 projections, which assume 600 plate appearances by each hitter, for Diaz and Mead:

https://www.fangraphs.com/projections?p=&lg=&team=12

Diaz and Mead are projected with 2025 strikeout rates of 15.4 percent and 19.9 percent, respectively.

The 33-year-old Diaz is owed $10 million in 2025 with a $12 million club option for 2026 (with no buyout). The 24-year-old Mead comes with six years of team control.

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:44 am

harmony wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:36 am
A current featured hypothetical trade at Baseball Trade Values has first baseman Yandy Diaz and third baseman Curtis Mead going to Seattle for Emerson Hancock, Lazaro Montes, Tai Peete and the Round A competitive balance pick:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/181711

The Steamer600 projections, which assume 600 plate appearances by each hitter, for Diaz and Mead:

https://www.fangraphs.com/projections?p=&lg=&team=12

Diaz and Mead are projected with 2025 strikeout rates of 15.4 percent and 19.9 percent, respectively.

The 33-year-old Diaz is owed $10 million in 2025 with a $12 million club option for 2026 (with no buyout). The 24-year-old Mead comes with six years of team control.
That is a dumb trade, it undervalues Seattle assets

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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by tehmc » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:46 am

Arizona Diamondbacks sign Corbin Burnes

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/ ... urnes.html

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Post by GL_Storm » Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:25 am

Why do you all keep bringing up Yandy Diaz?

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Post by Big_Maple » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:15 pm

For those of you who are interested, here’s a good summary of status of trade talks between the M’s and Boston (Castillo-Casas-Yoshida):

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/ ... talks.html

My guess is the Sox want to free up some cash to make a run at Bregman. Move Devers to 1B. They would seriously upgrade their infield and add to an impressive starting rotation. The Yanks would no longer be the de facto winners of the AL East on opening day anymore.

Maybe a Castillo and Haniger for Casas and Yoshida plus the Sox eating some of Yoshida’s remaining contract would make it work?
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:21 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:44 am
harmony wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:36 am
A current featured hypothetical trade at Baseball Trade Values has first baseman Yandy Diaz and third baseman Curtis Mead going to Seattle for Emerson Hancock, Lazaro Montes, Tai Peete and the Round A competitive balance pick:

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/181711

The Steamer600 projections, which assume 600 plate appearances by each hitter, for Diaz and Mead:

https://www.fangraphs.com/projections?p=&lg=&team=12

Diaz and Mead are projected with 2025 strikeout rates of 15.4 percent and 19.9 percent, respectively.

The 33-year-old Diaz is owed $10 million in 2025 with a $12 million club option for 2026 (with no buyout). The 24-year-old Mead comes with six years of team control.
That is a dumb trade, it undervalues Seattle assets
And overvalues Yandy, a 33 yo 1B who had major regression last season and is now a pretty mid bat likely to regress even further in 2025. Mead? Yeah trade for a 3B that had a worse OPS than Rojas in 2024. Brilliant!
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Post by D-train » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:36 pm

Red Sox have zero decent 2Bs....
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:39 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:15 pm
For those of you who are interested, here’s a good summary of status of trade talks between the M’s and Boston (Castillo-Casas-Yoshida):

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/12/ ... talks.html

My guess is the Sox want to free up some cash to make a run at Bregman. Move Devers to 1B. They would seriously upgrade their infield and add to an impressive starting rotation. The Yanks would no longer be the de facto winners of the AL East on opening day anymore.

Maybe a Castillo and Haniger for Casas and Yoshida plus the Sox eating some of Yoshida’s remaining contract would make it work?
The site shows that you have to add Bliss or someone else with significant excess value.
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

Post by Big_Maple » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:57 pm

What’s the prevailing wisdom on Spencer Torkelson? He was a highly rated prospect and the first overall pick in 2020. But he’s struggled in the majors batting .221 and a .693 OPS

But with the Tigers signing Torres, they are moving Colt Keith to 1B. They have effectively bumped Torkelson off the roster, and my guess is he’d be a cheap get while his value is tanking.

Any interest in making a run at him?

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Post by D-train » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:46 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:57 pm
What’s the prevailing wisdom on Spencer Torkelson? He was a highly rated prospect and the first overall pick in 2020. But he’s struggled in the majors batting .221 and a .693 OPS

But with the Tigers signing Torres, they are moving Colt Keith to 1B. They have effectively bumped Torkelson off the roster, and my guess is he’d be a cheap get while his value is tanking.

Any interest in making a run at him?
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