I think most of the c early draft success can be attributed to Pete coming directly from the college game where he had directly recruited and or competed against the majority of the guys he was evaluating. He knew those draft classes better than anyone and he knew the guys he needed to do what he wanted to do on the field.Michael K. wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 12:59 amTotally agree. And again, Wilson, Lynch and the League not being ready for the read option.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:18 pmI think the success of those early drafts - particularly 2010-2012 -,which i think were the result of a combination of great scouting and luck, really messed with JS' head and caused him to believe that he was the smartest guy in the GM room and could find find gems where no-one else thought to look.
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Outstanding point. I know we've discussed that in here for some time, as well as on of the advanced scouts or front office personnel people that was credited with some of the success as well.Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 8:02 pm
I think most of the c early draft success can be attributed to Pete coming directly from the college game where he had directly recruited and or competed against the majority of the guys he was evaluating. He knew those draft classes better than anyone and he knew the guys he needed to do what he wanted to do on the field.
Sorry, it is foolish to look at the drop off, look at the dearth of talent at similar positions, look at the amount of money we poured into our own because we couldn't come up with replacements in the draft, and not give a ton of credit to JS for the fact that this team is no longer a threat to win to win a playoff game, and has missed the playoffs two of the past three years.
We were the youngest team in the NFL the year before we won the Super Bowl, and one of the youngest teams in the NFL when we won it. Fantastic, but it has been downhill ever since. He changed his philosophy some by not constantly trading back, thumbing his nose at quality because he wanted quantity. But despite a mountain of evidence to support the fact that his approach to building an Offensive Line is horseshit? He doubles down year after year.
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Michael K. wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:07 pmHe came in and was immediately the third stringer, and was still the third stringer late in the season. That's not a light RB room. And, it might benefit you to look at the backs in that draft. Leading the NCAA in rushing because you are at SD State doesn't make you the best back. There was this guy named Barkley and some SEC guys that were believed to be superior, and I'd say their NFL careers proved that.auroraave wrote: ↑Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:56 pmRashaad Penny was the best running back in college football - the team that had the worst RB room in the league due to injuries picked him - a completely logical move. It didn't pan out like it would on Madden. Luck, timing, context - soooooooooooo often ignored. No matter what strategy someone uses - it is NEVER going to be 100%. I reject those that accept the wins using said strategy, while lamenting the losses using the same strategy - the losses are mathematically inevitable.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:18 pmI think the success of those early drafts - particularly 2010-2012 -,which i think were the result of a combination of great scouting and luck, really messed with JS' head and caused him to believe that he was the smartest guy in the GM room and could find find gems where no-one else thought to look.
As for his strategy working? It worked in 2012, and maybe for a few years after. MAYBE. He has stubbornly stuck to his bullshit scraps on the O Line philosophy, and it has cost this team dearly. If that isn't him being arrogant and stubborn, then it makes him stupid. Not sure which is worse.