7/21/19 Edgar Martinez HOF day game thread

[D-train]

Yeah, I don't think any thought he would be worse even though he somehow is. Its more laughing at the giddy Roots sports crew and the rest of the M's PR machine thinking he would go right back to 2016 Seager.

[D-train]

how about Vladimir Guerrero Jr.?.. he seems pretty chubby to me, if you are Ross Atkins are you insisting he get in shape?

Maybe go on the Atkins diet?

[Donn Beach]

Yeah, I don't think any thought he would be worse even though he somehow is. Its more laughing at the giddy Roots sports crew and the rest of the M's PR machine thinking he would go right back to 2016 Seager.

well bpj talks about felix being worse from losing weight...

[D-train]

how about Vladimir Guerrero Jr.?.. he seems pretty chubby to me, if you are Ross Atkins are you insisting he get in shape?

Speaking of Vlad who is listed at 250lbs btw, he only has a .723 OPS. I guess those that were freaking that he wasn't on the OD roster may have been overreacting. Griffey had an .847 OPS at age 20.

Wow how about Juan Soto. I guess they shouldn't be worried about have rushed him. Pretty consistent for his age 19 and 20 seasons.

19 .292/.406/.517/.923
20 .293/.401/.523/.924

That is absolutely unbelieveable.

[D-train]

Yeah, I don't think any thought he would be worse even though he somehow is. Its more laughing at the giddy Roots sports crew and the rest of the M's PR machine thinking he would go right back to 2016 Seager.

well bpj talks about felix being worse from losing weight...

That is a little different. Losing velocity off his fastball. Big guys can throw harder than little guys in general. Kind of like an O lineman losing weight. Also long as it doesn't impact your swing, hitting as almost nothing to do with being in shape. See: Vogelbach, Daniel.

[Donn Beach]

whether its accurate or not i have no idea, but i was thinking that was what Michael was getting at, i was sincere about Vladimir, are you messing with him in order to build a better athlete? In terms of Soto...trout is a has been

[D-train]

Trout had a rough go with his cup O coffee as a 19 yo with a .672 OPS but managed a .963 OPS as a 20 yo. His worst since is .939. 70 bWAR already at age 27. Edgar was at 0.7 WAR coming into his age 27 season. lol

[Donn Beach]

sure, there is a lot being made of Soto's first 200 games being better than Trout's

Soto has more home runs, RBI and walks, fewer strikeouts and a higher OPS than did Trout for a full season and a quarter.

[Donn Beach]

wish the Mariners land a player along the lines of a Trout, Soto, or Vladimir jr again someday...

[D-train]

Rough outing for Paxton.

https://nypost.com/2019/07/21/james-pax ... h-clunker/

He is now at 85 IPs and a 4.20 ERA, 1.47 WHIP

Mike Leake:

124 IPs 4.27 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP