Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:28 pm

he played pretty much without Watt in 2017 and put up almost an identical season as 2018

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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:30 pm


Russell Wilson

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Me: So you telling me you’re not chasing me anymore? @ClowneJD : “Nah bro...all other QBs”

Me: okay we’re cool we’re cool.. 😎

Welcome to the squad bro! 🏈🏈
Watt was playing golf when the trade came down

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Kid on the golf course just broke news to me about my own team.

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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by ThePro » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:42 pm

trharder wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:19 pm

It's a question. Are you freaked out by the question?

I watched the video you provided. JJ Watt is visible on almost every play. JJ Watt is considered one of the
best DLs in the league. Some people might consider the presence of JJ Watt a big factor in the success
of Clowney in 2018 for the Texans. Do the 2019 Seahawks have a JJ Watt? Can Clowney be as successful
without another threat like JJ Watt being on the line?
No I am not freaked out by the question (whatever the fuck that means) Clowney has played only three seasons with Watt. The "Watt made Clowney better " theory has been debunked over and over again. Several tines on the forum. A video was posted of Clowney destroying the Hawks line without Watt. He made the All pro team in '16 when Watt was out the whole year. Clowney is successful period...end of story.

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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by D-train » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:52 pm

Hanjag wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:41 am
D-train wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:52 pm
Hanjag wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:31 pm


This is a good trade from both sides. Clowney is a physical freak 270# who can run 4.5. He could blossom into an defensive MVP candidate. Mingo was also a high draft pick and good not great player. The local guys had good things to say about Jacob Martin working hard and improving just like they said about Clark over the last few years. A #3 draft pick is a big piece to. Does anyone remember talks about maybe getting a 3rd or 4th rounder for Earl "best safety in NFL" Thomas.

I think it is a fair trade on both sides.
You are literally on your own private island if you think it was a fair trade. If it was the other way around (and we got this return for ET one year ago today) Hawks fans would have been jumping off the Aurora bridge.
Didn't we get nothing for Earl? And I remember the 3th or 4th round picks as compensation from the Cowboys being the rumor. The Texans got a bigger package for Clowney than what was rumored to be the market for Thomas. Thomas was basically the best safety in the NFL at the time. Clowney is a freak but he is not the best D line.

I think we won the trade just like I think the Phils, Yanks, and a number of of other teams won the "market".
EE/Bruce
People were hoping for a 1st and expecting a 2nd. Martin is a decent role player and Mingo is trash. Hawks payroll only goes up ~$4 after the trade with the Texans paying about half his salary. Insanity. Find me one link saying it was a fair trade and I will find you a dozen that say it was shockingly one sided.
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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by D-train » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:53 pm

ThePro wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:08 am
D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:56 am
So now we have a Freak on offense and a Freak on defense. Let the Freak show begin!!!
Yesssss!!! Have you noticed the WR depth chart? Moore is out. Brown is cut. It's like they have confidence in someone.... :D :D :D :D
Aaron Levine on Q13 made the EXACT point last night on his show.
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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by trharder » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:11 pm

ThePro wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:42 pm
trharder wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:19 pm

It's a question. Are you freaked out by the question?

I watched the video you provided. JJ Watt is visible on almost every play. JJ Watt is considered one of the
best DLs in the league. Some people might consider the presence of JJ Watt a big factor in the success
of Clowney in 2018 for the Texans. Do the 2019 Seahawks have a JJ Watt? Can Clowney be as successful
without another threat like JJ Watt being on the line?
No I am not freaked out by the question (whatever the fuck that means) Clowney has played only three seasons with Watt. The "Watt made Clowney better " theory has been debunked over and over again. Several tines on the forum. A video was posted of Clowney destroying the Hawks line without Watt. He made the All pro team in '16 when Watt was out the whole year. Clowney is successful period...end of story.
End of story?


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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by Double Mocha Man » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:33 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:56 am
So now we have a Freak on offense and a Freak on defense. Let the Freak show begin!!!
Ah, the Legion of Freak.
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Re: Your new DE/OLB Jadeveon Clowney

Post by roosevelt » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:51 pm

Now, I understand the Clowney deal a bit better. Texas kicking in money. The "poison pill" aspect... can move on (with no tag) next year.

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