Another Dallas Cowboys Fail...

[auroraave]

They will likely regret this... what a horrible deal. No way Elliott's best years are ahead of him. I thought the Shaun Alexander deal was the last of the absurd RB over-pays.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezek ... extension/

[ThePro]

They will likely regret this... what a horrible deal. No way Elliott's best years are ahead of him. I thought the Shaun Alexander deal was the last of the absurd RB over-pays.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezek ... extension/

What about Goff? Soon as I saw that contract I instantly heard " This is the end" by the Doors playing in my head.

[D-train]

This is mind boggling. After the Clowney trade our over under is 8.5 wins. I feel like betting my life savings on us winning at least 9 games. Ironically the Texans are also at 8.5.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/2019- ... odds-vegas

[auroraave]

They will likely regret this... what a horrible deal. No way Elliott's best years are ahead of him. I thought the Shaun Alexander deal was the last of the absurd RB over-pays.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ezek ... extension/

What about Goff? Soon as I saw that contract I instantly heard " This is the end" by the Doors playing in my head.

That's perfect - an LA band, too. I think Goff is serviceable, but that if a suspect contract. I'm just not sure I think the Lambs can repeat last season's success. They're pretty loaded, but that defense really wasn't that good after the Donald highlights - and I just don't think McVay is the next bellichick. Between Goff's deal and Zeke's ill advise deal that will hurt them in the long run - when compared to Seattle's stacked roster w/50 million in cap space next year - you really have to respect the job Seattle is doing.

[auroraave]

This is mind boggling. After the Clowney trade our over under is 8.5 wins. I feel like betting my life savings on us winning at least 9 games. Ironically the Texans are also at 8.5.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/2019- ... odds-vegas

I wouldn't worry about those numbers. Seattle will lose some early games - the cost of youth - but if they can stay healthy they should hit their stride late in the season. Those numbers simply do not matter. The Texans lost Clowney but gained Tunsil, so that's big. They leveraged the future for him, which is a gigantic fail for the future of the franchise. They're basically all-in for this season - not necessarily a bad thing now that the Colts are out of it, but this will hurt them for years.

[ThePro]

That's perfect - an LA band, too. I think Goff is serviceable, but that if a suspect contract. I'm just not sure I think the Lambs can repeat last season's success. They're pretty loaded, but that defense really wasn't that good after the Donald highlights - and I just don't think McVay is the next bellichick. Between Goff's deal and Zeke's ill advise deal that will hurt them in the long run - when compared to Seattle's stacked roster w/50 million in cap space next year - you really have to respect the job Seattle is doing.

Seattle's cap is gonna go quick. They have some tough decisions. The price for RTs is skyrocketing. I don't think they kick up 12 mil for Ifedi. They should sign Reed now. If Clowney goes off your could be looking at 3 year/90 mil to resign him. What if the tandem of him and Ansah is that unstoppable? Might have to get Ziggy with it too.

[D-train]

This is mind boggling. After the Clowney trade our over under is 8.5 wins. I feel like betting my life savings on us winning at least 9 games. Ironically the Texans are also at 8.5.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/2019- ... odds-vegas

I wouldn't worry about those numbers. Seattle will lose some early games - the cost of youth - but if they can stay healthy they should hit their stride late in the season. Those numbers simply do not matter. The Texans lost Clowney but gained Tunsil, so that's big. They leveraged the future for him, which is a gigantic fail for the future of the franchise. They're basically all-in for this season - not necessarily a bad thing now that the Colts are out of it, but this will hurt them for years.

Not worried about it. Seriously considering making a significant wager.

[HawkandMariner88]

This is mind boggling. After the Clowney trade our over under is 8.5 wins. I feel like betting my life savings on us winning at least 9 games. Ironically the Texans are also at 8.5.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/2019- ... odds-vegas

I wouldn't worry about those numbers. Seattle will lose some early games - the cost of youth - but if they can stay healthy they should hit their stride late in the season. Those numbers simply do not matter. The Texans lost Clowney but gained Tunsil, so that's big. They leveraged the future for him, which is a gigantic fail for the future of the franchise. They're basically all-in for this season - not necessarily a bad thing now that the Colts are out of it, but this will hurt them for years.

What is the success rate for 1st round LT's? How many have been drafted in the last 20 years & how many of them were considered good to great. Most OT I feel are found in the later rounds & as long as they can keep Watson upright I think they'll be ok. Top 5 WR, RB is decent, as long as their secondary doesn't get burned too bad I think they'll be fine. Remember you still have arguably the best DL in the game on defense.

[auroraave]

This is mind boggling. After the Clowney trade our over under is 8.5 wins. I feel like betting my life savings on us winning at least 9 games. Ironically the Texans are also at 8.5.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/2019- ... odds-vegas

I wouldn't worry about those numbers. Seattle will lose some early games - the cost of youth - but if they can stay healthy they should hit their stride late in the season. Those numbers simply do not matter. The Texans lost Clowney but gained Tunsil, so that's big. They leveraged the future for him, which is a gigantic fail for the future of the franchise. They're basically all-in for this season - not necessarily a bad thing now that the Colts are out of it, but this will hurt them for years.

What is the success rate for 1st round LT's? How many have been drafted in the last 20 years & how many of them were considered good to great. Most OT I feel are found in the later rounds & as long as they can keep Watson upright I think they'll be ok. Top 5 WR, RB is decent, as long as their secondary doesn't get burned too bad I think they'll be fine. Remember you still have arguably the best DL in the game on defense.

For sure. They'll be fine, in the short term, but they overpaid for Tunsil out of desperation and did not get a good return for Clowney. They should be a playoff team, but really my point was Seattle would not have overpaid like that, thankfully. Houston desperately needed a positive move (especially after the Clowney debacle) and they made one, but they way, way overpaid. All those picks they gave up? Yikes.

[57reasons]

I wouldn't worry about those numbers. Seattle will lose some early games - the cost of youth - but if they can stay healthy they should hit their stride late in the season. Those numbers simply do not matter. The Texans lost Clowney but gained Tunsil, so that's big. They leveraged the future for him, which is a gigantic fail for the future of the franchise. They're basically all-in for this season - not necessarily a bad thing now that the Colts are out of it, but this will hurt them for years.

What is the success rate for 1st round LT's? How many have been drafted in the last 20 years & how many of them were considered good to great. Most OT I feel are found in the later rounds & as long as they can keep Watson upright I think they'll be ok. Top 5 WR, RB is decent, as long as their secondary doesn't get burned too bad I think they'll be fine. Remember you still have arguably the best DL in the game on defense.

For sure. They'll be fine, in the short term, but they overpaid for Tunsil out of desperation and did not get a good return for Clowney. They should be a playoff team, but really my point was Seattle would not have overpaid like that, thankfully. Houston desperately needed a positive move (especially after the Clowney debacle) and they made one, but they way, way overpaid. All those picks they gave up? Yikes.

with the Luck retirement, and a wide-open division, they are in full go-for-it mode this season. some still talking Colts up, but i favor Jacksonville to reassert itself now that Foles replaces Bortles - think people are sleeping on what a huge upgrade that was, and how good that defense was as recently as two years ago.