Who's off the board tally

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:55 am

SeattleSportsRUs wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:17 am
Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:11 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:47 am


Here is the thing the A's and Giants home parks play the most like ours according to the metrics used on the link I just posted. My view is Chapmann had an off year.
Chapmann
year OPS+ WAR games played
2017 111 3.2 84
2018 137 7.6 145
2019 127 7.7 156
2020 120 1.1 37
2021 100 3.5 151

If you are talking about Matt's spike in K rate that dates back to the 37 games in 2020 but he still had a 120 OPS+ so I would not spit on a 120 OPS+ hitter. Especially if that hitter is the best defender at the position.
I just don't know why you would want to give up trade capital for a guy that you are hoping can rebound to a 120+ OPS when there is a guy available who will cost you nothing but cash who has never had an OPS+ lower than 121 in a full season.
Yeah. I don't really get the point of trading top prospects for slightly above average hitters.

If you've got a top farm, you should be offloading prospects for the top guys.

If it's not Jose Ramirez, Bryan Reynolds or Matt Olson I don't really wanna hear it.
I agree if it's not one of those 3 then what's the point. Story doesn't put us over the top, a guy with 200 strikeouts & superb defense doesn't put us over the top. We have the talent to get one so why not seize the opportunity.

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:52 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:00 am
Next thing we know they'll make a claim that hitting in Cincinnati makes it harder to hit on the road, rather than just admitting that you can look like Babe Ruth in Cincinnati.

Nick Castellanos wRC+:
Home: 177
Away: 105

JP Crawford wRC+:
Home: 93
Away: 113

Trevor Story wRC+:
Home: 107
Away: 93

What kind of hitter would Castellanos or Story be in Seattle?
Cincinnati is the 2nd best place to hit bombs behind Baltimore. (ignoring the temp. home of the BJs in FL)

https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfact ... t/HRFactor
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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:57 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:47 am
Alright so Story or Chapman? Which are you picking for 3B? Are you more convinced that Story is not going to crumble after Coors, or that Chapman's last 2 years were the exception and that he'll return to being a productive hitter?
Here's an idea, sign Bryant or trade for JRam so we don't have to hope and wish that something that is likely to happen won't happen.

Oh that's right, trading top prospects or giving FAs a 7th year is somehow a horrible thing in JDs brain.
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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by Captain 97 » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:21 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:36 am
I agree with this. Even when healthy, this is one of the most strikeout-prone players in the league, which really is a limiting factor on the hit tool. However, I would really enjoy watching him play defense.
The infield defense would be sick. by fangraphs defensive metrics you would the #1 defenders at both first and 3rd, #11 at SS and #7 at 2b.

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Mar 13, 2022 1:35 am

updaTed

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by Pharmabro » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:15 am

Added the Gray trade

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by ice99 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 12:24 am

Scherzer.

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by Pharmabro » Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:40 am

The other part of my Twins trade Josh Donaldson goes to the Yanks

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by Pharmabro » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:29 pm

Updated for Olson and Winker

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Re: Who's off the board tally

Post by Pharmabro » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:34 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:36 am
Starters
1. Verlander 2 years 50 million + 2nd is player option (Q.O>) Injury, but Ace Astros
1. Max Scherzer 3/130M Mets
1Aa Robbie Ray lefty SP 5/115 m with opt out after 3
1A Gausman 5/110 M BJs
1C Stroman 3/71M
2. Thor 1 X21M ( Q.O) Injury but a TOR history LAA
2A. Morton 1X20 Braves
2B Wainwright 1X17.5 Cards
2c Clayton Kershaw 1/17M with incentives
2d Rodon Giants 2/44M
3. Ed Rod 5 for 77-80M poorest ERA year but best metrics (Q.O.) DET
4A Gray 4/56M Rangers
4. Matz LHP 4/ 44 to 48M St.L
4a Chris Bassit A's to Mets a couple of non top 100 pitching prospects Jt Jinn 3 ERA and former 1st and 2nd Rd pick
4B Sonny Gray Twins/reds trade for a 1st round pick #26 in 2021, and a Dominican with a near 5 ERA 2017 start, made Aball
5. Anthony DeSclafani RHSP 3/36M SF
5A James Paxton 1X10 or 2 / 35M
6. Alex Wood sounds like 2 X 10+M/ year SF
7A Rich Hill Redsox 1year / ??M
7. Kluber 8M Rays
7b Kik 3/36m contract Blue Jays
8. Alex Cobb 105 career ERA+
9. Carlos Martinez injured last 2 years and sucked but 2019 he was a 133 ERA+ guy (6 year stretch of #1, or #2 performance)

BP
Aaron Loup a really good LHBP 2 or 3 X 7.5M with 2M buyout LAA
Graveman 3/ 24M RHBP Whitesox
Mark Melancon closer 2 /14M Az

POSITION PLAYERS
IF
1AA Corey Seager SS 10/325 Rangers
1A Marcus S. SS,2B 7years 175M Rangers

2. M's get OF/DH LH Jesse Winker 128 career OPS+, and SS-3B Eugeno Saurez 107 career OPS+ from Reds // Dunn, Fraley, and Brandon Williamson & PTBNL
2A Javier Baez SS, 2B. 3B Tigers 6/ 140M
2B Braves get OLSON for Cristian Pache, catcher Shea Langeliers right-handers Ryan Cusick and Joey Estes.
2B. Mitch Garver C/1B/DH 139 and a 157 OPS+ was traded for Isiah fn Kiner Falefa!
1. 1B Brandon Belt LHB, 1B, MVP level bat (Q.O. accepted 1X 18.4) SF
3B Josh Donaldson to Yanks for Gio, and Gary Sanchez
2A Taylor SS/2B/CF 4/64M exactly his projection
2. Eduardo Escobar2B, 3B, SS 2/ 20M (Mets)
3. ADAM FRAZIER TRADED RAY KERR 2B/OF :roll:
3A. Brewers Andrew McCutchen OF
3. CJ Cron 1B 2 /14.5M

OF
Starling Marte (4 years / 78 million) Mets
Avisal Garcia 4/53M
DH Nelson Cruz to the Nats 1X13M
Canha 2/26.5 Mets
Kole Calhoun 1X 5.2m

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