Well we still need another COF so...Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:17 pmI see this as a sign that the M's don't think they've got a good shot at getting Nimmo.
Trade!!!
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Picked up Teo for Swanny and Macko!!! Swanson soup had the biggest fluky year after being nothing but garbage for multiple seasons. Don't trust him.
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Did you see my Macko valuation?Captain 97 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:45 pmTheir Model is garbage. 5.4 Million value for a 21year old Who hasn't been out of A ball yet and has a 1.411 WHIP in the minors and just put up an ERA over 6 in the AZ fall league.
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Unfortunate reality of trading for Teoscar is the $14.5 million price tag that comes with him. I doubt very much that they'd be willing to invest the $20 or so million per year for Nimmo after making this trade.D-train wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:41 pmWell we still need another COF so...Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:17 pmI see this as a sign that the M's don't think they've got a good shot at getting Nimmo.
I think they go the trade route for another OF... they sign one of the F/A pitchers to finish their rotation... Senga being the big fish for a cheaper price.
Trades are still very much on the horizon.
2B: Brandon Lowe? Ketel Marte?
OF: Tyler O'neill? Bryan Reynolds?
The M's are clearly set on circumventing the cost of getting a significant player in f/a by trading for players with short control who they can extend. If the M's signed Hernandez in F/A we'd all be thrilled... and I don't necessarily hate this strategy so long as it yields really good players. They seem to really have liked the Astros model.
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How about this? Did the fact that we came back from an 8-1 deficit vs. their shit pen cause them so much trauma that they were willing to give up Teo for a BP piece????

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I was pushing for trade on the horizon because when I did the all FA type of plans I was pushing 200 Million and I doubt JD wants to be that high. So I thought 1 or2 needs has to come from trades. But Teoscar is a 15M dollar one year guy. I like the deal. We get a 130-ish OPS+ RF that is pretty athletic. He has been a 3 or 4 WAR guy the last 3 years.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:00 pmUnfortunate reality of trading for Teoscar is the $14.5 million price tag that comes with him. I doubt very much that they'd be willing to invest the $20 or so million per year for Nimmo after making this trade.D-train wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:41 pmWell we still need another COF so...Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:17 pm
I see this as a sign that the M's don't think they've got a good shot at getting Nimmo.
I think they go the trade route for another OF... they sign one of the F/A pitchers to finish their rotation... Senga being the big fish for a cheaper price.
Trades are still very much on the horizon.
2B: Brandon Lowe? Ketel Marte?
OF: Tyler O'neill? Bryan Reynolds?
The M's are clearly set on circumventing the cost of getting a significant player in f/a by trading for players with short control who they can extend. If the M's signed Hernandez in F/A we'd all be thrilled... and I don't necessarily hate this strategy so long as it yields really good players. They seem to really have liked the Astros model.
One nice upgrade so far. Swanson was definetly in our top 8 arms in the pen. And I never was high on Macko.
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The $14.5 price tag can be offset some by trading Winker ($8.25)Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:00 pmUnfortunate reality of trading for Teoscar is the $14.5 million price tag that comes with him. I doubt very much that they'd be willing to invest the $20 or so million per year for Nimmo after making this trade.D-train wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:41 pmWell we still need another COF so...Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 5:17 pm
I see this as a sign that the M's don't think they've got a good shot at getting Nimmo.
I think they go the trade route for another OF... they sign one of the F/A pitchers to finish their rotation... Senga being the big fish for a cheaper price.
Trades are still very much on the horizon.
2B: Brandon Lowe? Ketel Marte?
OF: Tyler O'neill? Bryan Reynolds?
The M's are clearly set on circumventing the cost of getting a significant player in f/a by trading for players with short control who they can extend. If the M's signed Hernandez in F/A we'd all be thrilled... and I don't necessarily hate this strategy so long as it yields really good players. They seem to really have liked the Astros model.
2B: Brandon Lowe seems like a carbon copy of Adam Frazier
OF: Tyler O'Neill? Seems like hes very similar to the 2022 version of Jesse Winker
I wouldn't be too enthused if those were the chosen moves.
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Re: Trade!!!
tehmc wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:52 pmThe $14.5 price tag can be offset some by trading Winker ($8.25)Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:00 pmUnfortunate reality of trading for Teoscar is the $14.5 million price tag that comes with him. I doubt very much that they'd be willing to invest the $20 or so million per year for Nimmo after making this trade.
I think they go the trade route for another OF... they sign one of the F/A pitchers to finish their rotation... Senga being the big fish for a cheaper price.
Trades are still very much on the horizon.
2B: Brandon Lowe? Ketel Marte?
OF: Tyler O'neill? Bryan Reynolds?
The M's are clearly set on circumventing the cost of getting a significant player in f/a by trading for players with short control who they can extend. If the M's signed Hernandez in F/A we'd all be thrilled... and I don't necessarily hate this strategy so long as it yields really good players. They seem to really have liked the Astros model.
2B: Brandon Lowe seems like a carbon copy of Adam Frazier
OF: Tyler O'Neill? Seems like hes very similar to the 2022 version of Jesse Winker
I wouldn't be too enthused if those were the chosen moves.



See if you can guess who is who. And tell me if they seem like carbon copies.
Lowe and O'Neill are buy low candidates with cheap control that gets more expensive if they perform. Both are significantly better options than we're likely to get in F/A or through our current crop of players at the respected positions.
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So Toronto is looking at Nimmo after trading Hernandez. Seems they are pretty comparable as hitters (although Nimmo more OBP with Hernandez more SLG) nimmo the better fielder. Not a bad deal for them if they get Swanson, then get a better fit as a lefty in Nimmo.
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