Jalen Carter is not that good.

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:03 pm

Yeah, that's my point. PCJS are the ones actually digging into his character, there are other reference points, like talking to him

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:06 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:03 pm
Yeah, that's my point. PCJS are the ones actually digging into his character, there are other reference points, like talking to him
If PCJS take him I will fully admit and eat my crow, and get on board with the pick. They will obviously know something we didn't.

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Post by ddraig » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:50 pm

If you can trade down and get the other team's 1st round pick, another 2 round pick for this year, and a first or second round pick for next year, I'm for it.

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by Michael K. » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:36 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:42 pm

What do you think about Salk's playing with house money argument and if he is a bust it doesn't set us back much?
It's bullshit, and exactly the shit we'll be bitching about in two or three years if a guy a few spots below us becomes and All Pro and we have a QB that is still developing.

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by D-train » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:48 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:06 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:03 pm
Yeah, that's my point. PCJS are the ones actually digging into his character, there are other reference points, like talking to him
If PCJS take him I will fully admit and eat my crow, and get on board with the pick. They will obviously know something we didn't.
I will eat crow if he has a good season. I read somewhere that PCJS have mad a bad pick or two the past decade. My memory goes back further than 12 months. :)
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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by SeattleAddict » Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:33 pm

it's a rare thing when i agree with somebody 100%, but what Richard Sherman says about the draft is everything I believe. You all can hang your hats on the Kiper-wannabes out there, I'll take Stanford grad, All-Pro, and all-time Seahawk as my soapbox mate.

** I only watched the first half of it about the Seahawks, then they switched to 49ers so anything after that doesn't count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsfdw4zC75I

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:38 pm

SeattleAddict wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:33 pm
it's a rare thing when i agree with somebody 100%, but what Richard Sherman says about the draft is everything I believe. You all can hang your hats on the Kiper-wannabes out there, I'll take Stanford grad, All-Pro, and all-time Seahawk as my soapbox mate.

** I only watched the first half of it about the Seahawks, then they switched to 49ers so anything after that doesn't count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsfdw4zC75I
He's a defensive minded player. Of course that's all he's going to focus on.

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by SeattleAddict » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:18 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:38 pm

He's a defensive minded player. Of course that's all he's going to focus on.
Former WR, so it's not like he's unfamiliar with the offensive needs (one of the bigger ones being WR). He focused on it because defense is where pick #5 can have the greatest impact on this team. You want to take a QB that maybe has a 1/5 shot at making the team better five years from now, but the rational thing is to try to make the 2023 team better.

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:26 am

SeattleAddict wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:18 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:38 pm

He's a defensive minded player. Of course that's all he's going to focus on.
Former WR, so it's not like he's unfamiliar with the offensive needs (one of the bigger ones being WR). He focused on it because defense is where pick #5 can have the greatest impact on this team. You want to take a QB that maybe has a 1/5 shot at making the team better five years from now, but the rational thing is to try to make the 2023 team better.
I want the BEST player on the board period! That's Will Anderson or any of the Top 4 QB's after that! Richardson's tests at the combine were legendary! He blew every QB record out of the water. The ceiling is so high on him that a guy like this only comes around once in a blue moon.

Carter could be that guy, but I'm just too nervous about all the circus stuff going on around him.

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Re: Jalen Carter is not that good.

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:38 am

I think he makes a point, we suddenly have all these fantastic qbs to be drafted. And everybody keeps talking about finding the next Mahomes but Mahomes went 10th or whatever. Who knows who the next Mahomes is

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