5 minutes of DK highlights

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Re: 5 minutes of DK highlights

Post by trharder » Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:45 am

SeattleAddict wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:28 pm
His ceiling can't be measured in yards. Not with the Seahawks, anyway. If he was in a pass-happy offense, he'd be able to put up huge numbers. The DK impact is not about numbers, though. He puts fear in other teams' defense. Opposing CBs don't want to cover him, and REALLY don't want to tackle him. He takes away their #1 CB, putting Tyler against their 2nd best guy, which is a mismatch 95% of the time. If JSN lives up to expectations, he gets their #3 guy... and that is where the real impact could be felt.
I'll rephrase if it makes you feel better, but it probably won't.
We have seen his ceiling as a Seahawk. He will not have any seasons that are remarkably better than ones we have already seen.
For at least the first three years of DK, there was hope he'd be more - some how...
Does that mean DK is not a high value member of the offense? no, to the contrary, he's very good.
Would DK have more fantasy football numbers if he was on a more pass happy team? Sure, why not. I don't consider that anything
to do with "ceiling".

I do agree DK's value is not just numbers, but the rest of what you describe I find to be exactly what I find frustrating.
He does often get in the other team's head and is very physical, but I don't believe he draws more attention than Tyler.
It looks that way because defenders have no trouble covering DK. He is never very open. It takes a leap of faith by the QB
to even throw it to him. He does well at catching the ball in traffic, usually, but he's not hard for NFL CBs and safeties to cover.
Yes, he's a load to tackle and I sure as hell would never want to try, but he doesn't break that many tackles.
What seems like several times every game, DK will try to run over or otherwise tough guy a would be tackler instead of
turning on the jets and better trying to elude them, despite being extremely fast.

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Re: 5 minutes of DK highlights

Post by SeattleAddict » Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:15 am

trharder wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:45 am


He does often get in the other team's head and is very physical, but I don't believe he draws more attention than Tyler.
It looks that way because defenders have no trouble covering DK. He is never very open. It takes a leap of faith by the QB
to even throw it to him. He does well at catching the ball in traffic, usually, but he's not hard for NFL CBs and safeties to cover.
Yes, he's a load to tackle and I sure as hell would never want to try, but he doesn't break that many tackles.
What seems like several times every game, DK will try to run over or otherwise tough guy a would be tackler instead of
turning on the jets and better trying to elude them, despite being extremely fast.
I see your point, but I disagree. You don't see Tyler getting into shouting or shoving matches with Jalen Ramsey, Marshon Latimore, Patrick Surtain, Darius Slay, etc... because they are covering DK. So he 100% attracts more attention than Tyler. When other teams have a so-called shutdown corner, he is on DK.

I also disagree that he's easy to cover - even if the fact that the opposing team's #1 guy is on him was perfect evidence of this, he's open a LOT. Tyler Lockett is one of the best route runners in the NFL, so we get spoiled a bit. DK also runs a lot of fly routes where getting open isn't even that important - they're just looking to exploit a physical mismatch.

Your original point of him being near his ceiling may well be accurate, though. Will he take more steps? Maybe. Maybe not. But if he plateaus at the level he's at, he's still a helluva player.

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Re: 5 minutes of DK highlights

Post by 57reasons » Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:04 pm

What's frustrating about him is that despite his massive size and strength advantage, his ball skills are not that good, rarely coming down with the contested catch, especially the red zone fade routes. I'd like to see more comeback, stick, back shoulder, and out routes from him given how infrequently the fade routes connect. And you would also think he should be devastating on slants but that seems very hit and miss as well.

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Re: 5 minutes of DK highlights

Post by Michael K. » Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:43 pm

auroraave wrote:
Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:21 pm
I come away appreciating the beast that is DK - but also with a renewed appreciation for Geno - dude throws a seriously beautiful ball. Who throws it better? People forget the huge college career he had - he can seriously sling it with the best of them. The fact he has that skill set, is insanely athletic but rarely looks to run but will when it's the right decision, and has a decade of NFL knowledge - all the maturity without the mileage on the odometer. It's hard not to get excited about this offense. Imagine that - a PC team leading with the offense.
Pretty crazy how he has grown. My guess is he just needed to mature emotionally. I imagine he also wasn't exactly a student of the game coming into the NFL, and the Jets might not have been the best organization for him to grow into that type of player. Obviously the physical tools were always there.

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Re: 5 minutes of DK highlights

Post by Michael K. » Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:45 pm

57reasons wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:04 pm
And you would also think he should be devastating on slants but that seems very hit and miss as well.
That ball has to be delivered on time, and in the middle of the field. IMO, Russ couldn't see that to throw that. That said, I expected it to be a bigger weapon, and am shocked that it wasn't last year.

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