Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by douche » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:22 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:07 pm
This is the first new thread here in almost a week. Meanwhile, the Off Topic, Memes & Entertainment forum is averaging three new threads per day for the past few weeks. :lol:
Who in the hell is AnthonBed? And what is the point?

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by XpertDBA » Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:32 pm

What's amazing about this is that Holmgren wouldn't throw a screen pass if you paid him a zillion dollars, so this has been going on for quite some time.
I can't remember how many times Holmgren would be predictable on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, and would it would drive me insane.

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:05 pm

douche wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:22 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:07 pm
This is the first new thread here in almost a week. Meanwhile, the Off Topic, Memes & Entertainment forum is averaging three new threads per day for the past few weeks. :lol:
Who in the hell is AnthonBed? And what is the point?
I don't know. I thought you had to go through a screening process to join these forums, but apparently he by-passed that. I would just advise you to not click on the links in his posts. ;)

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by Michael K. » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:29 pm

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Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:49 pm
Doubt it came down to a couple of players. Screens are run basically to take advantage of an overly aggressive defense. Football really is about about that coordination between players. A successful screen has to be up there with the most complicated wouldn't it?
I would normally agree, but this defense seemed more hesitant last year than overly agressive. I think the LB play just sucked. Sorry, but think back to all the Cody Barton hate on here last year, and the constant videos posted of that dude just flat out being bad. Brooks wasn't a lot better either. I agree, let's hope that Bobby and Bush is more than a Porn Spoof of the Brady Bunch! :lol:

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by D-train » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:51 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:05 pm
douche wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:22 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:07 pm
This is the first new thread here in almost a week. Meanwhile, the Off Topic, Memes & Entertainment forum is averaging three new threads per day for the past few weeks. :lol:
Who in the hell is AnthonBed? And what is the point?
I don't know. I thought you had to go through a screening process to join these forums, but apparently he by-passed that. I would just advise you to not click on the links in his posts. ;)
He snuck in before the screening process. Jason will delete him when he finds out.
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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by D-train » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:52 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:29 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:49 pm
Doubt it came down to a couple of players. Screens are run basically to take advantage of an overly aggressive defense. Football really is about about that coordination between players. A successful screen has to be up there with the most complicated wouldn't it?
I would normally agree, but this defense seemed more hesitant last year than overly agressive. I think the LB play just sucked. Sorry, but think back to all the Cody Barton hate on here last year, and the constant videos posted of that dude just flat out being bad. Brooks wasn't a lot better either. I agree, let's hope that Bobby and Bush is more than a Porn Spoof of the Brady Bunch! :lol:
I am honored that at least one person enjoyed my "humor!" lol
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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by Michael K. » Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:32 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:52 pm

I am honored that at least one person enjoyed my "humor!" lol
I most certainly did!

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by douche » Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:07 pm

XpertDBA wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:32 pm
What's amazing about this is that Holmgren wouldn't throw a screen pass if you paid him a zillion dollars, so this has been going on for quite some time.
I can't remember how many times Holmgren would be predictable on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, and would it would drive me insane.
For all the hype Holmgren received, his play-calling was pretty weak.

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by Michael K. » Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:10 pm

douche wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:07 pm

For all the hype Holmgren received, his play-calling was pretty weak.
My biggest complaint with him was he had a road grading O Line and an MVP candidate at RB, and all he wanted to do was make Matt a Pro Bowler. Imagine if PC had THAT offense? We beat the Steelers by 28 points with PC and Bevell running that offense.

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Re: Hawks were worst at both tossing and defending screens

Post by douche » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:38 am

Michael K. wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:10 pm

My biggest complaint with him was he had a road grading O Line and an MVP candidate at RB, and all he wanted to do was make Matt a Pro Bowler. Imagine if PC had THAT offense? We beat the Steelers by 28 points with PC and Bevell running that offense.
Agreed. I was at that wildcard game between the Rams and SEA in January of 2005. Alexander finished second in rushing that year, 1 yard behind Curtis Martin. He was money in the red zone. So what happens in that game? Alexander finishes with 40 measly yards on 15 carries! Absolutely brilliant on Holmgren's part.

In addition, Holmgren brought in Jerry Rice. And Rice started that game but they never threw the ball to him. Not once. Again, brilliant.

This game (and subsequent loss) sealed it for me. Right then and there, I knew that Holmgren was an overrated turd.

You mentioned the loss to the Steelers. And then him and Heckert were hired to resurrect the Browns. How did that turn out?

Let's not forget that Holmgren also said that he would avoid players of questionable character. Then he promptly drafted bums like Koren Robinson and Jerramy Stevens.

Holmgren... useless.

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