The problem with Geno

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:45 am

WTF is the recent trend where if you are critical when a guy plays like total shit, you are a "Hater" F-ing lunatics on social media these days.
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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:16 am

Sounds like he/she/they/it has a deep understanding of the game. Who actually describes football plays as "yucky" besides some transnonbinarysissyfag? :lol:

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:33 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:33 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:09 am
Imagine how grumpy people be if they were 3-6 instead of 6-3.
For me it is a lot like the Mariners. Close to being really good right now so it increases the frustration level. At 3-6 I would be apathetic, just focused on the draft already and wouldn't even care week to week.
Except the Hawks are tied for the division lead with "win totals" projecting them winning it with the leagues 3rd best record. They are too inconsistent? As opposed to who? The 49ers just got done losing three in a row. Go ahead and be frustrated but I don't see the Hawks relationship to the rest of the NFL as similar to the mariners with MLB.

It's the same old dilemma. The Hawks aren't going anywhere until they can PC, but he wins too much to get canned.

Don't think I'd seen red zone scoring focused on before.
The Seahawks have been wildly inconsistent in the red zone this season, scoring touchdowns on 58.8% of their red-zone opportunities before their Week 5 bye, as opposed to 38.5% in the three games since. If they can get that percentage back to what it had been -- which should be possible with their personnel, healthy bookends and Shane Waldron calling plays -- they could play late into the postseason
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-win-total- ... e-deadline

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:37 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:33 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:33 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:09 am
Imagine how grumpy people be if they were 3-6 instead of 6-3.
For me it is a lot like the Mariners. Close to being really good right now so it increases the frustration level. At 3-6 I would be apathetic, just focused on the draft already and wouldn't even care week to week.
Except the Hawks are tied for the division lead with "win totals" projecting them winning it with the leagues 3rd best record. They are too inconsistent? As opposed to who? The 49ers just got done losing three in a row. Go ahead and be frustrated but I don't see the Hawks relationship to the rest of the NFL as similar to the mariners with MLB.

It's the same old dilemma. The Hawks aren't going anywhere until they can PC, but he wins too much to get canned.

Don't think I'd seen red zone scoring focused on before.
The Seahawks have been wildly inconsistent in the red zone this season, scoring touchdowns on 58.8% of their red-zone opportunities before their Week 5 bye, as opposed to 38.5% in the three games since. If they can get that percentage back to what it had been -- which should be possible with their personnel, healthy bookends and Shane Waldron calling plays -- they could play late into the postseason
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-win-total- ... e-deadline
I have actually been a bit of the Voice of Reason here this season. After the Rams game I brought up the Packers a few years ago and after last week I predicted 6-3 and alone in 1st place if the 49ers lost a tough road game that turned out to be a cake walk for them.
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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by Michael K. » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:53 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:36 pm
I was optimistic about the direction of this team prior to the utter debacle in Baltimore, but feel like that game exposed some systemic problems within the organization that aren't going to be addressed anytime soon. There is just no accountability for the coaches below Carroll not doing their jobs at the level of excellence necessary to get to that elite level. It seems that as long as they are good soldiers then Carroll is happy and nothing will change. Therefore this team will probably not get back even to a conference title game while he is head coach, unless they can build a roster even better than those from 2012-15. The game has evolved and Pete wants to run simplified and/or archaic systems on both sides of the ball with coordinators that are incapable of nuance, creativity, or adaptability.
Agreed. Washington is not a good football team, and if you watch the 4th quarter yesterday you'd think they were the Kurt Warner led Rams.

Our offense is incredibly frustrating, and I don't care if it's Waldron or Geno that is at fault...it's bad. Washington is a bad defense, and we sputtered our way to a win, but yesterday had way more frustrating moments than great moments, IMO.

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:59 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:37 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:33 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:33 am


For me it is a lot like the Mariners. Close to being really good right now so it increases the frustration level. At 3-6 I would be apathetic, just focused on the draft already and wouldn't even care week to week.
Except the Hawks are tied for the division lead with "win totals" projecting them winning it with the leagues 3rd best record. They are too inconsistent? As opposed to who? The 49ers just got done losing three in a row. Go ahead and be frustrated but I don't see the Hawks relationship to the rest of the NFL as similar to the mariners with MLB.

It's the same old dilemma. The Hawks aren't going anywhere until they can PC, but he wins too much to get canned.

Don't think I'd seen red zone scoring focused on before.
The Seahawks have been wildly inconsistent in the red zone this season, scoring touchdowns on 58.8% of their red-zone opportunities before their Week 5 bye, as opposed to 38.5% in the three games since. If they can get that percentage back to what it had been -- which should be possible with their personnel, healthy bookends and Shane Waldron calling plays -- they could play late into the postseason
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-win-total- ... e-deadline
I have actually been a bit of the Voice of Reason here this season. After the Rams game I brought up the Packers a few years ago and after last week I predicted 6-3 and alone in 1st place if the 49ers lost a tough road game that turned out to be a cake walk for them.
Yeah, I remember that, your take on things. Everyone is scared to death of the 49ers again. Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty much in the same boat. I see nothing but disaster ahead. It's only a matter of time before the Hawks are going to be exposed as a terrible team

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:35 am

Rip Pete and the Hawks but I think comparisons to the Mariners are unfair. Jerry Dipoto is a technocrat, he's the new analytical face to sports. He is in love with his numbers, success through numbers. His 54% strategy speaks to that. You don't get swept up in the emotion of a WS bid, you just stick to your numbers. Pete on the other hand is all about emotion, competitive desire. Pete's a dinosaur but he's a fascinating one. I think his desire to win is what stands out in a profession filled with it. For me the mariner comparison is Lou pinnella. Pete's going to be gone soon. I think you should really try to enjoy it while it lasts.

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:51 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:35 am
Rip Pete and the Hawks but I think comparisons to the Mariners are unfair. Jerry Dipoto is a technocrat, he's the new analytical face to sports. He is in love with his numbers, success through numbers. His 54% strategy speaks to that. You don't get swept up in the emotion of a WS bid, you just stick to your numbers. Pete on the other hand is all about emotion, competitive desire. Pete's a dinosaur but he's a fascinating one. I think his desire to win is what stands out in a profession filled with it. For me the mariner comparison is Lou pinnella. Pete's going to be gone soon. I think you should really try to enjoy it while it lasts.
Yeah it is for totally different reasons. For the M's it is all about weak ass roster construction. Hawks have massively turned that around with the draft the past two seasons. It is all in game stuff with them that drives me crazy sometimes.
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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:54 am

Carroll's a great head coach, but i think he has sabatoged his own success by his belief that believing in his assistant coaches will make them successful.

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Re: The problem with Geno

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:01 am

So much more strategy and sophisticated play calling in football. With baseball it is almost all about which players to put on the roster and then which ones to play then the coaches and manager are pretty much done.
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