Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:15 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:10 pm
harmony wrote:
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Young and controllable, first time I think I've seen Castillo's name mentioned
A trade of Luis Castillo for an impact bat could free up payroll to sign Blake Snell (or another free agent starter).

Castillo has a no-trade clause in his contract.
If the Mariners signed Blake Snell today, the M's would have three starters with nine-figure contracts.

One could argue that's not wise distribution of financial resources.
Only way they do that is trade Castillo first as you mentioned.
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Post by D-train » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:16 pm

If RR has a miracle recovery and is already rehabbing in Tacoma by the trade deadline then we can obviously trade a starter with skipping a beat.
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Post by D-train » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:39 pm

Royals spending coin. Must be nice.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

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Post by harmony » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:05 pm

Mariners After Midnight columnist Jason Churchill suggests trading Josh Rojas, Dylan Moore and Ty France to clear payroll space:

https://www.midnightmariners.com/p/clip ... t&r=2z8agc

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:11 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:05 pm
Mariners After Midnight columnist Jason Churchill suggests trading Josh Rojas, Dylan Moore and Ty France to clear payroll space:

https://www.midnightmariners.com/p/clip ... t&r=2z8agc
I can't decide if this is hyperbole, or if it is seriously suggesting we rob Peter to pay Paul, or if it suggests we are penny wise and pound poor.

Either way, this all seems moot since the M's appear to be standing pat. They haven't signed a FA, and meanwhile teams that appeared to need starting pitching a couple of months ago are starting to sign or trade for them - which means there is less demand for the one trade chip we have to offer.

Boggles the mind. Surely there is some huge trademark Jerry deal pending...

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by harmony » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:21 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:11 pm
harmony wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:05 pm
Mariners After Midnight columnist Jason Churchill suggests trading Josh Rojas, Dylan Moore and Ty France to clear payroll space:

https://www.midnightmariners.com/p/clip ... t&r=2z8agc
I can't decide if this is hyperbole, or if it is seriously suggesting we rob Peter to pay Paul, or if it suggests we are penny wise and pound poor.

Either way, this all seems moot since the M's appear to be standing pat. They haven't signed a FA, and meanwhile teams that appeared to need starting pitching a couple of months ago are starting to sign or trade for them - which means there is less demand for the one trade chip we have to offer.

Boggles the mind. Surely there is some huge trademark Jerry deal pending...
The successful bidder tends to pay a premium early in an auction.

Better bargains tend to come later in the auction but some hopeful bidders walk away with nothing.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:24 pm

Can't even believe we are talking about trading away $3 million guys to save money. If they were to do it, it better AFTER they acquire their replacements.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by harmony » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:33 pm

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Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:24 pm
Can't even believe we are talking about trading away $3 million guys to save money. If they were to do it, it better AFTER they acquire their replacements.
When other clubs have some leverage knowing the team needs to cut payroll?

Deals probably are not made independently of each other. A move is likely made with the complementary transaction lined up.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:38 pm

harmony wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:33 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:24 pm
Can't even believe we are talking about trading away $3 million guys to save money. If they were to do it, it better AFTER they acquire their replacements.
When other clubs have some leverage knowing the team needs to cut payroll?

Deals probably are not made independently of each other. A move is likely made with the complementary transaction lined up.
We have zero leverage NOW because we have multiple massive holes in the lineup. Who cares if we get a C- or a D+ prospect for Moore or Rojas.
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