Revisting selected front office moves

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I vividly remember when the Mariners were 10 game up in the division.....I still wasn't impressed with how they were playing.

I texted my family that, Yes, the Mariners do have a 10 game lead in the division, but by the end of the season, they will be 10 games back and NOT make the playoffs.

[rockycola]

.....so you think there's a chance?

Alternate realities are fun to think about but as was said, too many negative factors:
*Ownership reputation - the LOUD whispers around MLB speak volumes about what really matters here is the bottom line
*The dreaded Marine Layer
*New factor is the Mariner's ROOT Sports losing revenue streams from the Trailblazers & Kraken which shrinks dollars for possible future Mariner outlays.
*Many Players and their families think Seattle is a remote outpost. At a minimum, most travel miles and hours to get anywhere.
*I think if a down & out, over the hill player wants some Daddy love, well, Servais is your guy.

There's more, but work beckons.

[D-train]

.....so you think there's a chance?

Alternate realities are fun to think about but as was said, too many negative factors:
*Ownership reputation - the LOUD whispers around MLB speak volumes about what really matters here is the bottom line
*The dreaded Marine Layer
*New factor is the Mariner's ROOT Sports losing revenue streams from the Trailblazers & Kraken which shrinks dollars for possible future Mariner outlays.
*Many Players and their families think Seattle is a remote outpost. At a minimum, most travel miles and hours to get anywhere.
*I think if a down & out, over the hill player wants some Daddy love, well, Servais is your guy.

There's more, but work beckons.

None of those have anything to do with our current chances to win the division this season.

[gil]

Here we are 63-59; Astros at 65-55. Since June 17, Astros have gone 32-17. Mariners, 20-28.

This is the most disappointing mid-June to mid-August stretch that I remember.

[rockycola]

.....so you think there's a chance?

Alternate realities are fun to think about but as was said, too many negative factors:
*Ownership reputation - the LOUD whispers around MLB speak volumes about what really matters here is the bottom line
*The dreaded Marine Layer
*New factor is the Mariner's ROOT Sports losing revenue streams from the Trailblazers & Kraken which shrinks dollars for possible future Mariner outlays.
*Many Players and their families think Seattle is a remote outpost. At a minimum, most travel miles and hours to get anywhere.
*I think if a down & out, over the hill player wants some Daddy love, well, Servais is your guy.

There's more, but work beckons.

None of those have anything to do with our current chances to win the division this season.

You are right, current chances are getting slimmer by the day.
A Seattle surge or an ASTRO losing streak could change the odds, but I'm not betting on it.

I guess I was talking about the discouraging bigger, future picture.

All I know is since I've been following the M's since the Bochte, Paciorek, Julio Cruz, Parrott, Honeycut & Bannister years, this is the most lost hope year I can remember.

[toboggan]

REPLACING TEOSCAR HERNANDEZ WITH MITCH HANIGER: There's no reason why this had to happen. Even if Hernandez duplicated 2023, that's WAY better than what Haniger's corpse is doing, and he's been a corpse for almost three seasons now. Hernandez is on pace for a 4.3 WAR, Haniger - 0.3. That is literally 4 1/2 games flushed down the toilet. What really did the Mariner organization think Haniger was going to do? And if we were going to trade Robbie Ray, we really couldn't have done better than this?

REPLACING EUGENIO SUAREZ WITH JOSH ROJAS & LUIS URIAS: Suarez was clearly on the decline, so he had to go. But to replace him with THAT garbage? Urias of course proved again that his career is over, and Rojas has shown us why the Diamondbacks had no problem sending him packing.

REPLACING TOM MURPHY WITH SEBY ZAVALA: Murph has missed almost the entire season with injury. Zavala his missed almost the entire season with suckage.

REPLACING TY FRANCE WITH JUSTIN TURNER: I just don't get why anyone thought that this was a good idea. Turner was having a bad season for the Blue Jays and is the classic one-year-too-late player that Jerry DiPoto loves. Turner is an older and slower version of France.

TRADING JOSE CABALLERO FOR LUKE RALEY: this should have been a better trade than it's turned out to be. At least Caballero has remained the player he was with us while Raley has not so we got the short end of that one.

SIGNING MITCH GARVER: This is probably the stupidest free-agent signing in the history of the franchise just because of how stupid it was at the time. The man was 0-32 in his career at T-Mobile Park. WHY would you sign someone like that? Shockingly, he's batting .146 at T-Mobile Park this season. And oh, by the way, .183 on the road.

TRADING FOR JORGE POLANCO: nothing wrong with the acquisition, but in addition to everything else, second base has been the place good careers go to die three straight years now. I'll bet that at no other time in MLB history has this specific thing ever happened at any position on any team.

TRADING FOR RANDY AROZARENA AND YIMI GARCIA: good trades, solid player and bullpen arm, but they're barely going to move the needle and overall the front office blew it in July.

This franchise is stupid.

It is the fucking park effect. Get your head out of your ass. Fix the fucking park.

You mean have somebody else buy it out so it isn't covered in cursed ass pink anymore?

[Hy Feiber]

REPLACING TEOSCAR HERNANDEZ WITH MITCH HANIGER: There's no reason why this had to happen. Even if Hernandez duplicated 2023, that's WAY better than what Haniger's corpse is doing, and he's been a corpse for almost three seasons now. Hernandez is on pace for a 4.3 WAR, Haniger - 0.3. That is literally 4 1/2 games flushed down the toilet. What really did the Mariner organization think Haniger was going to do? And if we were going to trade Robbie Ray, we really couldn't have done better than this?

REPLACING EUGENIO SUAREZ WITH JOSH ROJAS & LUIS URIAS: Suarez was clearly on the decline, so he had to go. But to replace him with THAT garbage? Urias of course proved again that his career is over, and Rojas has shown us why the Diamondbacks had no problem sending him packing.

REPLACING TOM MURPHY WITH SEBY ZAVALA: Murph has missed almost the entire season with injury. Zavala his missed almost the entire season with suckage.

REPLACING TY FRANCE WITH JUSTIN TURNER: I just don't get why anyone thought that this was a good idea. Turner was having a bad season for the Blue Jays and is the classic one-year-too-late player that Jerry DiPoto loves. Turner is an older and slower version of France.

TRADING JOSE CABALLERO FOR LUKE RALEY: this should have been a better trade than it's turned out to be. At least Caballero has remained the player he was with us while Raley has not so we got the short end of that one.

SIGNING MITCH GARVER: This is probably the stupidest free-agent signing in the history of the franchise just because of how stupid it was at the time. The man was 0-32 in his career at T-Mobile Park. WHY would you sign someone like that? Shockingly, he's batting .146 at T-Mobile Park this season. And oh, by the way, .183 on the road.

TRADING FOR JORGE POLANCO: nothing wrong with the acquisition, but in addition to everything else, second base has been the place good careers go to die three straight years now. I'll bet that at no other time in MLB history has this specific thing ever happened at any position on any team.

TRADING FOR RANDY AROZARENA AND YIMI GARCIA: good trades, solid player and bullpen arm, but they're barely going to move the needle and overall the front office blew it in July.

This franchise is stupid.

It is the fucking park effect. Get your head out of your ass. Fix the fucking park.

Just curious, what was the park effect on the 2001 Mariners team, when they won 116 games?

[D-train]

Here we are 63-59; Astros at 65-55. Since June 17, Astros have gone 32-17. Mariners, 20-28.

This is the most disappointing mid-June to mid-August stretch that I remember.

Jesus I cursed them. I also did this with my "Holy Shit, We have a 10 game lead" Game thread.

[D-train]

.....so you think there's a chance?

Alternate realities are fun to think about but as was said, too many negative factors:
*Ownership reputation - the LOUD whispers around MLB speak volumes about what really matters here is the bottom line
*The dreaded Marine Layer
*New factor is the Mariner's ROOT Sports losing revenue streams from the Trailblazers & Kraken which shrinks dollars for possible future Mariner outlays.
*Many Players and their families think Seattle is a remote outpost. At a minimum, most travel miles and hours to get anywhere.
*I think if a down & out, over the hill player wants some Daddy love, well, Servais is your guy.

There's more, but work beckons.

None of those have anything to do with our current chances to win the division this season.

You are right, current chances are getting slimmer by the day.
A Seattle surge or an ASTRO losing streak could change the odds, but I'm not betting on it.

I guess I was talking about the discouraging bigger, future picture.

All I know is since I've been following the M's since the Bochte, Paciorek, Julio Cruz, Parrott, Honeycut & Bannister years, this is the most lost hope year I can remember.

Yes those are all valid Macro level reasons we are where we are right now. Though the travel issue is 97% perception vs. reality as I have shown in the past.

[toboggan]

I'm fine with the Turner acquisition, except Servais never puts him in the lineup and he's missed two easy throws to first base. Even if not at first base, he should DH. Ty's been swirling around the toilet bowl ever since he got hurt toward the end of last season, his swing never fully returned, even after Driveline.

Once we stop over platooning our players, allow them to fully develop per season, and take the entertainment aspect out of managing the team, we'll do just fine. Stacking batting averages would be good to, leaving too many runners on base means the lineup is wrong, something we somehow haven't seemed to figure out yet.