2024 Election.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:59 pm

This is insane.... I bet we never see nor hear from him again until news breaks that he is in assisted living...
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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:22 am

You sure about that, all the attention on Biden I think took the attention away from some of trump's odd behavior. The demos running a candidate against him that was actually older did him a favor
If he wins the election, Donald Trump would be the oldest president ever elected. After several appearances where his remarks were rambling or incoherent, and one event in which he swayed silently to music on stage for close to 40 minutes, questions are being raised about possible cognitive decline.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by Hy Feiber » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:06 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2024 5:36 am
auroraave wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:20 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2024 4:02 pm
Yeah, it was a clear victory and the demos are not trying to degrade the process for the sake of their interests, that to me is respecting America, it's value and institutions. That's the 3rd world mind set that has set in. It's about challenging the fairness of the system rather than the voice of the people.
SO, calling half the country deplorables, Nazis and garbage is 'respecting America, it's value and institutions?' The Dems have spent four years calling Americans names, claiming men can get pregnant, cancelling people, censoring the citizens, forcing vaccines on them, flooding their neighborhoods with dangerous illegal aliens while making us pay for their housing and food because they want their vote, weaponizing the DOJ against political opponents, ignoring gas prices and the crushing economy, calling Trump "Hitler" and his supporters racists, and now, as they lose power, they suddenly "respect America, it's value and institutions?" Oh, yeah. That's totally believable!

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I agree, the denigrating of trump supporters was always terrible. Yeah it happened with Biden just before the election. Responding to someone calling Puerto Rico garbage. He responded along the lines that Trump supporters were garbage. He claimed he was only referring to the one individual but that's still bull shit, you don't call anybody garbage. Even if you have issues with them, there should be a basic level of respect.
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My brother texted me after the election, Harris kept insisting Trump wasn't them, hello, he is, his supporters are. It's like they are in denial. There's all sorts of opinions now what the election turned on. I believe Americans generally speaking want change. I don't believe it's focused on particular issues but more a general mood. I think Trump is phony but he is very good at selling himself as a change agent. It's much more the sizzle rather than the steak in that respect. It wasn't about the actual changes, it was Trump's promise of change. The demos totally blew it, Harris ended up defending the status quo rather than trying to sell change. That to me is what killed them.

Remember Harris' honeymoon when she first entered the race. She had the element of being a fresh new voice. I think Americans picked up on that, they were excited about someone being different vg. She had Trump on the defensive, he suddenly became the old guy. If she would have grabbed the opportunity. Distanced herself from the old guard of the demos party it might have worked but it was the opposite. In fact I understand it was the opposite, the party hacks pressured her to be loyal to Biden, tow the line, sell the same stuff Biden was trying to sell. They didn't want her to represent herself as a change agent and I think that's what killed her.

The defining point being the interview where she was asked, what she would have done differently if she had been president rather than Biden. She responded she couldn't think of a thing. The party hacks were happy with that reply. She was being the loyal candidate. When I heard that I knew it was time to put a fork in her. She lost the election at that point. She needed to promise change but she couldn't come up with any

I remember Hubert Humphrey being in the same sort of situation. He wouldn't distance himself from Johnson, loyal to the end. Nixon beat him like a rented donkey
What killed her was that she was probably one of the dumbest candidates in history, in a party of freaks.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by bpj » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:11 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:22 am
You sure about that, all the attention on Biden I think took the attention away from some of trump's odd behavior. The demos running a candidate against him that was actually older did him a favor
If he wins the election, Donald Trump would be the oldest president ever elected. After several appearances where his remarks were rambling or incoherent, and one event in which he swayed silently to music on stage for close to 40 minutes, questions are being raised about possible cognitive decline.
Stop listening to the news Donn. Nobody who actually watched Trump campaign believes the cognitive decline nonsense.

They count on you people that don't actually watch to buy it.

We watched him for 3 hours straight with Joe Rogan. Trump is still sharp as a tack.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by bpj » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:21 am

Trump just appointed this guy as director of ICE and in charge of deportations :D :D :D

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:00 am

bpj wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:11 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:22 am
You sure about that, all the attention on Biden I think took the attention away from some of trump's odd behavior. The demos running a candidate against him that was actually older did him a favor
If he wins the election, Donald Trump would be the oldest president ever elected. After several appearances where his remarks were rambling or incoherent, and one event in which he swayed silently to music on stage for close to 40 minutes, questions are being raised about possible cognitive decline.
Stop listening to the news Donn. Nobody who actually watched Trump campaign believes the cognitive decline nonsense.

They count on you people that don't actually watch to buy it.

We watched him for 3 hours straight with Joe Rogan. Trump is still sharp as a tack.
What I'm saying is it's relative. Trump certainly has qualities that really suit running for office. His age was an issue but it paled to bidens's. It really doesn't make much difference to me. At this point in my life I look at politics like a sporting event. You got a 78 year old opponent and you come up with one that's even older? Just funny to me, what a clown car it was. I've said it before, nobody has responded. I think Al Franken would have been an interesting matchup. He was rising through the ranks until the republicans managed to eliminate him. Political issues aside Franken might have dragged the demos into a more media suited approach. A Franken vs trump could have been an entertaining match

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:46 pm

For those that support Trump I just caution just like with anybody, believe it until you see it. So far I'm believing.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by douche » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:10 pm

Trump is in a very unique position. He's already been president so he has knowledge of all the inner workings. It's a HUGE advantage, but will he utilize it? Only time will tell.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by bpj » Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:39 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:00 am
bpj wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:11 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:22 am
You sure about that, all the attention on Biden I think took the attention away from some of trump's odd behavior. The demos running a candidate against him that was actually older did him a favor

Stop listening to the news Donn. Nobody who actually watched Trump campaign believes the cognitive decline nonsense.

They count on you people that don't actually watch to buy it.

We watched him for 3 hours straight with Joe Rogan. Trump is still sharp as a tack.
What I'm saying is it's relative. Trump certainly has qualities that really suit running for office. His age was an issue but it paled to bidens's. It really doesn't make much difference to me. At this point in my life I look at politics like a sporting event. You got a 78 year old opponent and you come up with one that's even older? Just funny to me, what a clown car it was. I've said it before, nobody has responded. I think Al Franken would have been an interesting matchup. He was rising through the ranks until the republicans managed to eliminate him. Political issues aside Franken might have dragged the demos into a more media suited approach. A Franken vs trump could have been an entertaining match
Fair points.

From where I was sitting, the Dems problem was 4 years of failed policy and everyone that represents their party is a Gavin Newsome level degenerate.

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Re: 2024 Election.

Post by D-train » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:02 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:22 am
You sure about that, all the attention on Biden I think took the attention away from some of trump's odd behavior. The demos running a candidate against him that was actually older did him a favor
If he wins the election, Donald Trump would be the oldest president ever elected. After several appearances where his remarks were rambling or incoherent, and one event in which he swayed silently to music on stage for close to 40 minutes, questions are being raised about possible cognitive decline.
The said on the News today that he didn't sleep for 72 hours prior to election night...
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