DC fires the OC. LOL

[Sibelius Hindemith]

You'll find many of these. I've never thought he ran the ball enough. I also didn't hire him to do what he does and then fired him for doing what he does.

But they didn't hire him to run the offense that he ran at UW. Their mistake was in thinking he could evolve in his playcalling to fit a more balanced NFL scheme. Grubb demonstrated over and over that he was either unwilling or unable to do that. What he did with Howell vs Green Bay pretty much said it all.

They may very well have looked at his body of work and thought they could change him. But that’s the bullshit Pete used to pull. I’m not sure that made it a smart hire.

And, once again, do you think after watching us run the football against anyone not AZ, that the answer was running it more? The roster is grossly flawed, and that’s on JS and MM. much like when PC fired an OC or the Mariners fired a hitting coach, a scapegoat was assigned.

Again, he might not have been the man for the job, but I can’t wait to see the shit that wants to come here after a guy that has that success with Geno gets fired after one year.

Yes they should have run more, if for no other reason than it forces the o linemen to be aggressive and initiate contact which eventually wears down most defenses. The added bonus is that the o linemen are getting beat up as well which might build some character and nastiness in them eventually (if they don't suffer major injuries).

[Donn Beach]

Here's Smith take on it, he takes it through pretty much game by game, the souring of the relationship, it's convincing, nice piece, he must have been working on this.

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/seahawk ... ryan-grubb

I am far from a yes man but I can't imagine being a first time OC in the NFL making at least a million a year? And not taking direction from my boss who hired me. Now he is unemployed with the scarlet letter of being fired after one year. I guess he will have a lot of college OC job offers. Do the Cougs need one??? lol

I find that pretty hard to believe. But maybe that's what got him fired. But again, if Grubb was hired to run his offense, did MM really think THIS wasn't his offense, and did he really think we are better off running the ball more with Charbo and this Line?

The Offense was statistically better than the defense. The offense played the way their OC has always played. Mac wasn't comfortable with that. So? It was a stupid hire. He also brought in two MLBs to start the season that didn't fit his scheme. Another quick reaction to get rid of them, just like firing the OC. But why does he keep misidentifying what fits? Not one ILB, but two of them. And his very first OC gets fired for calling the game the way he has always called the game?

He wasn't hired to run his offense he was hired to run the Seahawks offense. I think they felt he would adjust to the pro game, he didn't, he was stubborn. His was a college offense, he wasn't going to just apply It to the pros, there is a new level of defenses to deal with.

[Donn Beach]

Here's Smith take on it, he takes it through pretty much game by game, the souring of the relationship, it's convincing, nice piece, he must have been working on this.

https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/seahawk ... ryan-grubb

I am far from a yes man but I can't imagine being a first time OC in the NFL making at least a million a year? And not taking direction from my boss who hired me. Now he is unemployed with the scarlet letter of being fired after one year. I guess he will have a lot of college OC job offers. Do the Cougs need one??? lol

Arguing he should head to Alabama, I guess Saban had a similar situation with sarkisian and overcame it. I think it makes sense

Saban had to consider the same after Mike Locksley left for Maryland. Sarkisian lost his job after two seasons as the Atlanta Falcons' offensive coordinator. It could have been easy for Saban to hold a grudge against Sark for leaving so quickly after he was promoted to offensive coordinator back in 2017. There were plenty of qualified candidates interested in the job, too.

Instead, Saban realized Sark had a special offensive mind and the program would benefit from having him back in the fold. What transpired was a special run that included the 2020 national championship and a tenure that multiple coaches and players believe was the best offensive coordinator stretch during Saban's time in Tuscaloosa. Sarkisian so thoroughly rehabilitated his career during his second stint at Alabama that he landed one of the best jobs in the sport, Texas, and currently has the Longhorns two wins away from a national championship this year

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... track/amp/

[D-train]

By Matt Calkins
Seattle Times columnist
Yes, Ryan Grubb was a first-year NFL offensive coordinator adapting to a league that didn’t offer him the same caliber of weapons he had at Washington.

Yes, Grubb was the mastermind of a Seahawks “O” that ranked 29th in rushing attempts this season despite having a turnover-prone quarterback.

Yes, DK Metcalf had the fewest targets since his rookie season as Seattle finished 14th in total offense and 18th in scoring.

But come on … this playoff-free season wasn’t Grubb’s fault. The offensive struggles? That’s on the personnel.

The Seahawks fired Grubb on Monday after an offensive season that featured its share of bright spots and blunders. There were 10 wins, along with an offensively inspired loss to the 15-2 Lions in which Seattle scored 29 points. But there was also an incessant run/pass imbalance that might have cost the Seahawks victories, most notably in the 29-20 loss to the Giants when the offense posted just 13 points.

Sure, there were play calls that went poorly. That is the life of an offensive coordinator. Expecting all of them to work to perfection is like expecting a pitcher to throw nothing but strikes.

But did you see that offensive line? Did you notice all those needless red-zone interceptions? Do you remember that No. 1 running back Kenneth Walker III played in just 11 games?

Andy Reid could have had Grubb’s job, and the Seahawks wouldn’t have fared much better.

Seattle’s O-line came into Week 18 as the second-worst in the NFL according to Pro Football Focus’ rankings, and it isn’t particularly hard to see why. It was tied for third in the NFL in sacks allowed (54) this season, and though the Seahawks throwing more than most teams factored into that total, it was also a byproduct of who was on (or off) the field.

Right tackle Abe Lucas played serviceably when he came back to the lineup, but he missed 10 games, five of which resulted in losses. Center Connor Williams, a bad-snap recidivist, retired midway through the season. Christian Haynes, the guard picked in the third round of last year’s draft, couldn’t sneak into the starting lineup despite the unit’s struggles. Outside of left tackle Charles Cross, who has played close to his ninth-overall-pick expectations, the protection up front was weak.

Even when the Seahawks did run the ball, they were just 22nd in the league in yards per carry going into the final game — when they beat up a Rams team playing their starters sparingly. It’s not easy to advance the ball on the ground when the O-line is shoddy and your top RB is out due to injury for more than a third of the season.

So the Seahawks threw. A lot. And it worked a good chunk of the time before QB Geno Smith — be it his fault or that of a receiver — threw an interception. That happened 15 times this season, the third-most in the NFL. Four of those picks happened in the red zone.

Smith was asked about Grubb after Sunday’s 30-25 win over the Rams, and called him “an excellent coordinator. … It’s his first year. You have to give the guy some grace.”

This came after a previous response in which Smith admitted to making “a lot of stupid mistakes.”

In his defense, a lot of those “mistakes” were receiver-induced, such as players not finishing off their routes. And as for Metcalf not getting as many targets as he has in past seasons? A huge part of that is because fellow receiver Jaxon Smith-Njigba had 100 catches for 1,130 yards — 37 more catches and 502 more yards than he had last season. Does Grubb get any credit for that?

I’m not saying Grubb was a scapegoat for first-year coach Mike Macdonald, who made his hay as a defensive coordinator. I believe him when he says, “It was an alignment thing. It was a vision thing” when it came to Grubb’s firing.

But I also read a Sports Illustrated story that suggested the head-coach/offensive-coordinator relationship began to sour after the aforementioned loss to the 3-14 Giants. Just remember … the Seahawks also allowed 29 points to New York in that defeat while giving up 175 rushing yards on 34 carries. That’s not an offensive issue.

Coordinators in football are often treated like hitting and pitching coaches in baseball. They endure the frustration from the public when the results are subpar. Doesn’t mean Grubb is blameless here, but this was primarily a personnel issue.

Perhaps next year the Seahawks have better offensive results. If that happens, though, it won’t be because of new guys wearing headsets — but because of new guys wearing helmets.

[Donn Beach]

And is usually the case i really don't care much for calkins opinion. I don't agree OCs are treated like hitting coaches, they are often one step from being a HC, that's a dumb thing to write. I don't understand what his point is, scapegoat? Scapegoat for what, nobody was demanding a firing, they won ten games. That doesn't make sense. He writes articles just to create content. Smith on the other hand i feel delivered a well thought out article.

[trharder]

And is usually the case i really don't care much for calkins opinion. I don't agree OCs are treated like hitting coaches, they are often one step from being a HC, that's a dumb thing to write. I don't understand what his point is, scapegoat? Scapegoat for what, nobody was demanding a firing, they won ten games. That doesn't make sense. He writes articles just to create content. Smith on the other hand i feel delivered a well thought out article.

LOL. exactly right.

[Michael K.]

And is usually the case i really don't care much for calkins opinion. I don't agree OCs are treated like hitting coaches, they are often one step from being a HC, that's a dumb thing to write. I don't understand what his point is, scapegoat? Scapegoat for what, nobody was demanding a firing, they won ten games. That doesn't make sense. He writes articles just to create content. Smith on the other hand i feel delivered a well thought out article.

Tell me you don’t understand what scapegoat means without telling me you don’t understand what scapegoat means. The roster is grossly flawed, so just like the Mariners do all the time? They fired a coach that couldn’t make a grossly flawed roster work.

You don’t care for what he wrote because you don’t agree with his opinion. But he is far from the first person, even in here to be critical of the O Line and run game. Happened before Grubb even got here. We look at PFF grades all the time, the O Line didn’t grade well either. But? Had to be the play caller’s fault.

Once again, hiring Grubb and expecting miracles with this run game was stupid. Firing him for doing exactly what most people who have ever watched Ryan Grubb coach was stupid. My son says Schotty is going to interview for the job. That’ll be fun. Can’t wait to see the reaction in here when we go back to two dive plays, a bomb and a punt two out of every three drives. This place would have crucified Grubb if we lost ball games by running it thirty times for 105 yards. Everyone wanted Pete run out of town for that, and starting to look like Russ might not have been able to cook anyway.

Damn near at the bottom of the league in yards per carry before the Rams game. Yep, irrelevant…the fucker didn’t run it enough in his first year so beat feet. Can’t wait to see the visionary they bring in here to call dive play on third and 8 as the play clock runs out so we can punt. But at least MMs defense will be rested.

[Donn Beach]

I do understand what scapegoat means and I'm saying it doesn't apply. The Seahawks won ten games the roster is not grossly flawed. There was no reason to fire a coach to appease the masses. This is the fanatical fringe, there wasn't a ground swell of protest demanding a firing

[D-train]

And is usually the case i really don't care much for calkins opinion. I don't agree OCs are treated like hitting coaches, they are often one step from being a HC, that's a dumb thing to write. I don't understand what his point is, scapegoat? Scapegoat for what, nobody was demanding a firing, they won ten games. That doesn't make sense. He writes articles just to create content. Smith on the other hand i feel delivered a well thought out article.

Agree. Not a fan of his. My posting of ST articles doesn't mean I endorse or agree with them it is just that I know that you cheap bastards can't afford 50 cents a day and I think it is good to have all perspectives presented here even if we don't agree with them.

[D-train]

I do understand what scapegoat means and I'm saying it doesn't apply. The Seahawks won ten games the roster is not grossly flawed. There was no reason to fire a coach to appease the masses

The O line was a shit show because they added complete slop in FA and missed on all the draft picks. But it is the play callers fault. Starting to wonder about JS. I bet he had a big greasy paw in this decision.