Grading the Draft

[Donn Beach]

Yeah, and he'll run two wide receivers which seems pretty unusual, this i guess can improve the pass protection. A lot of play action that if you sell it can open up the deep ball to one of your two WRs. And shifts, the tight end shifting to the slot to create mismatches.

I'm more curious about kubiak than I've been with an OC. He's got his system and seems confident in it.Those two games last season were pretty sensational. He's run oriented but it's not like he can't put up points. Against Dallas they scored TD's in their first six possessions, that's not bad. Can he re-create that, we shall see.

Dennis Allen when they hired kubiak

"Just from a schematic standpoint, this whole offense is going to be based on kind of the run, play-action game. Dropback is going to be a part of it, but the main emphasis is going to be to be able to run the ball, run the ball effectively, and then be able to create some shot plays in the passing game off the play action. I think that's something that we can use."

Coaches say things like that all the time. What is truly amazing after two weeks of the 2024 season is how well it's all gone — and how absolutely revolutionary it all is now that Kubiak has this offense in hand.

https://athlonsports.com/nfl/new-orlean ... ts-offense

The issue with the Seahawks offense is the line. Kubiak has answers with his multiple TEs and fullback, but at the same time it's not just grinding it out on the ground, he's good ways they can score, so we shall see...

[Michael K.]

If a rookie TE is taking over the Metcalf role of taking the top off the defense? I imagine Kupp and JSN are going to find it pretty tough sledding getting open!

[Donn Beach]

That deal with Arroyo sounds like a bit of hype, both him and kubiak, we shall see. But yeah, the personal to pull it off, particularly the WRs I bet. I don't know anything about the saints but those were pretty fast weren't they? If they aren't getting open and you're not really selling the play action it's not gonna work very well.

[Donn Beach]

Talking about getting rid of DK... that doesn't sound like the same offense. I thought it was stretching the field, now Krup is a good fit

Walters said. “I think he's gonna do well in Pittsburgh, but at the same time I just think that they really revamped this wide receiver room to fit that Kubiak scheme and a lot of guys that are better route runners and guys that just kinda complement each other. I think JSN and Cooper Kupp are gonna be so fun to watch together."

Kupp is a better fit in Klint Kubiak’s offense than Metcalf. In a wide zone offense, there’s less of an emphasis on dynamic field stretchers and more attention to detail-oriented receivers who can block and win horizontally as much as vertically.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles ... 5_42261539

[Michael K.]

So, one article has a TE replacing our field stretcher, and the next says we don’t even need a field stretcher. Can’t wait to read the next one.

There ain’t shit to say yet, but these guys get paid to say shit…so they do. Sorry, not buying any of it. If NFL defenses don’t have to worry about the deep ball? Shit can get rough. Go watch the LOB when ET eliminated the deep ball by himself.

[Donn Beach]

The Arroyo article was reporting what came out of Kubiaks mouth

[Michael K.]

The Arroyo article was reporting what came out of Kubiaks mouth

Then he is a fucking dolt. Makes sense, I mean, we traded for Jimmy Graham and then spent the entire summer trying to teach him to be a hand in the dirt tight end. We paid Jamal Adams and then asked him to be Earl Thomas. We traded for Percy Harvin and then decided he was unable to run a route more than two yards behind the LOS. Why not draft a TE and try to make him a deep threat?

[Donn Beach]

That's the kind of TE he's supposed to be, they wouldn't be making him into something he isn't
Seaside Joe

It seems as though deep passing was actually Darnold’s strength in 2024, so offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak is likely to take advantage of that with Seattle’s offense in 2025. The new weapon who I am most curious to see used in this offense as a deep threat would be rookie tight end Elijah Arroyo

[Michael K.]

That's the kind of TE he's supposed to be, they wouldn't be making him into something he isn't
Seaside Joe

It seems as though deep passing was actually Darnold’s strength in 2024, so offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak is likely to take advantage of that with Seattle’s offense in 2025. The new weapon who I am most curious to see used in this offense as a deep threat would be rookie tight end Elijah Arroyo

Jesus Christ Donn, you are unreal.

In the 2025 NFL draft, notable tight end 40-yard dash times included Terrance Ferguson of Oregon at 4.63 seconds, Joshua Simon of South Carolina at 4.65 seconds, and CJ Dippre of Alabama at 4.69 seconds. Gavin Bartholomew of Pittsburgh and Thomas Fidone II of Nebraska also had a 40-yard dash time of 4.70 seconds.
Here's a more detailed look at some of the top tight end 40 times at the 2025 NFL combine:
Terrance Ferguson (Oregon): 4.63 seconds
Joshua Simon (South Carolina): 4.65 seconds
CJ Dippre (Alabama): 4.69 seconds
Gavin Bartholomew (Pittsburgh): 4.70 seconds
Thomas Fidone II (Nebraska): 4.70 seconds
Harold Fannin Jr. (Bowling Green): 4.71 seconds
Jalin Conyers (Texas Tech): 4.74 seconds
Mitchell Evans (Notre Dame): 4.74 seconds

Elijah Arroyo, a tight end drafted by the Seattle Seahawks, ran a 4.69-second 40-yard dash at the 2025 NFL Combine. He did not run the 40-yard dash at the Senior Bowl or his pro day due to a knee injury. The Seahawks estimated his GPS speeds would translate to a 40 time of 4.52 or 4.53 seconds.

So, he ran one in just a pubic hair under 4.7. Some how the Seahawks estimate he is really almost 0.2 faster than that, what ever. Does that still remind you of this?

D.K. Metcalf's 40-yard dash time at the 2019 NFL Combine was 4.33 seconds. This time was impressive, especially considering his size (6'3", 230 lbs).
This video shows D.K. Metcalf running a 4.2 second 40-yard dash in full football gear:

I can cut and paste shit too. Please explain to me how those two men are alike besides some fucked up quotes you found?

[Michael K.]

4.69 is not even REMOTELY close to the 4.33 DK ran, forget the fucking that there is word out there he ran a sub 4.3. But? A bunch of fuckups looking for shit to talk about this summer believe that a TE that ran a 4.69 40 is the next replacement for DK. Come on man. If you believe 4.69 is taking the top off a defense? You need to watch more football.