Make America Healthy Again (MAHA)

[gil]

From what I am reading there are 4 major targets of Secretary RFK Jr.'s policies:
Ultraprocessed foods
Seed oils
Glyphosate and other herbicides and pesticides
Fluoridated water

There's a new film (I have not watched) addressing these:

https://play.mahafilms.com/unlock-maha-now

How do people feel about this? I'm onboard personally. I do my best to eat whole foods with no chemicals. (One rule of thumb for me: If you couldn't make it in your kitchen, you probable shouldn't eat it.) I have chlorine and fluoride filters for my drinking and cooking water.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I think RFK is doing a great job.

If other countries have already made using some of these products illegal, why haven't we?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

What's wrong with seed oils?

[gil]

What's wrong with seed oils?

There are two things that I'm aware of (and honestly, I'm surprised they made it to the top of Kennedy's list of unhealthy things). One is that they are highly processed, usually with industrial chemicals. (E.g., you don't easily get oil out of grape seeds.)

The second, and more concerning thing for me, is that most seed oils contain a lot of omega-6 fatty acids. We need a balance between omega-3 and omega-6, and most of us get too much omega-6, relatively speaking.

[gil]

I think RFK is doing a great job.

If other countries have already made using some of these products illegal, why haven't we?

Good question. I think other countries are much more cautious when it comes to food safety. We allow food companies to add a lot of things to our food under the "Generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) category. From what I read, while the FDA is supposed to regulate food safety (including allowable ingredients) the food manufacturers can determine what ingredients (such as colorings, preservatives, flavoring, and other additives) are GRAS.

A big question for me is whether Kennedy will propose regulations for this, or focus on a public information campaign. Or maybe arm twisting with manufacturers to make our food healthier.

[auroraave]

What's wrong with seed oils?

Seriously? They are among the most inflammatory chemicals you can put in your body. Literally - some of these oils originated as engine lubricants - and you're now putting that in your body because RJR Nabisco bribed the FDA to legalize it. They are utterly toxic. Only use stuff like extra virgin olive oil and for higher cooking temps use avocado oil. If you are using wesson-type oils you are literally poisoning yourself. It's 2025 - this shit is common knowledge. Would you cook with valvoline? Well, that is literally what you are doing. Remember that when you eat out - and imagine what low-grade oils fast food uses - the worst of the worst. That's why people that eat that shit are sick - and throw in the 60 ounce coke with 200 grams of sugar for the kill.

Next up - go research the yellow food dye - when you find out what it is you'll probably dry heave it's so gross.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Thanks for the info. I don't do much cooking with oils, although i consume raw olive oil in antipastos that i enjoy. I do eat food cooked in canola occasionally though and butter as well so guilty as charged.

[gil]

Butter is pretty natural, so I think it's better than trans fats, hydrogenated oils, and seed oils.

One challenge with eliminating seed oils is that they are not just in the oil *we* use for cooking. When we eat restaurant or take out food, we eat the oils that they cook with. Also, seed oils are in all sorts of prepared, packaged foods. Read the labels.

https://www.islank.com/list-of-foods-th ... -seed-oils

Packaged Snacks

Potato Chips: Often fried in sunflower, canola, or corn oil.
Crackers: Many varieties use soybean or safflower oil.
Granola Bars: Frequently contain sunflower or canola oil.
Baked Goods

Cookies: Commercially produced cookies often use soybean or corn oil.
Muffins: Can be made with canola or sunflower oil.
Cakes: Many pre-packaged cakes use vegetable oil blends that include seed oils.
Fast Food

Fried Chicken: Typically cooked in a blend of vegetable oils including canola or soybean oil.
French Fries: Often fried in a mix of canola and soybean oil.
Onion Rings: Commonly made with a blend of seed oils.
Salad Dressings

Ranch Dressing: Often contains soybean or canola oil.
Italian Dressing: Frequently made with sunflower or safflower oil.
Caesar Dressing: Can include a mix of seed oils.
Cooking Oils

Vegetable Oil: Usually a blend that includes soybean, canola, or corn oil.
Canola Oil: A common choice for general cooking and baking.
Sunflower Oil: Used for frying and as a base in many recipes.
Margarine and Spreads

Margarine: Often contains soybean, canola, or sunflower oil.
Non-dairy Butters: Many use seed oils as a primary ingredient.
Beverages

Flavored Water: Some brands may include trace amounts of seed oils in their formulations.
Ready-to-Drink Coffee: Certain brands use seed oils in their formulations for creaminess.
Condiments

Mayonnaise: Typically made with soybean or canola oil.
Ketchup: Some formulations include a blend of seed oils.
Barbecue Sauce: Can contain soybean or canola oil.
Frozen Foods

Frozen Pizza: Often uses soybean or canola oil in the crust.
Frozen Dinners: May include seed oils in sauces and cooking processes.
Frozen Vegetables: Sometimes pre-cooked in seed oils.
Canned Foods

Canned Tuna: Often packed in soybean or sunflower oil.
Canned Vegetables: Some varieties are preserved with seed oils.
Processed Meats

Hot Dogs: Frequently contain seed oils in their emulsions.
Chicken Nuggets: Often fried in a blend of seed oils.
Breakfast Foods

Pancake Mix: Many commercial mixes contain canola or soybean oil.
Instant Oatmeal: Some varieties use seed oils in the flavoring or added ingredients.
Energy Bars

Protein Bars: Typically contain sunflower or canola oil.
Nut Bars: Often use seed oils for texture and stability.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Actually, i once deep fried some chicken in valvoline synthetic and it seemed to work pretty well.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Actually, i once deep fried some chicken in valvoline synthetic and it seemed to work pretty well.

I hope you added some red dye #5 too.