hEvans help us GT. You See Kikuchi is now a decent pitcher

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:43 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:29 am
SoB is determined that none of us should like Ben Williamson.
???

I literally complimented his glove in the post. He has a very strong ability to glove a baseball.

His arm leaves a bit to be desired. It's certainly not what was touted.

And the bat? Woof.

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:50 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:43 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:29 am
SoB is determined that none of us should like Ben Williamson.
???

I literally complimented his glove in the post. He has a very strong ability to glove a baseball.

His arm leaves a bit to be desired. It's certainly not what was touted.

And the bat? Woof.
Touted? It's not hype, it's his scouting grade

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:53 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:50 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:43 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:29 am
SoB is determined that none of us should like Ben Williamson.
???

I literally complimented his glove in the post. He has a very strong ability to glove a baseball.

His arm leaves a bit to be desired. It's certainly not what was touted.

And the bat? Woof.
Touted? It's not hype, it's his scouting grade
Then the scouts got it wrong.

Anyone who has played baseball at a high level can take a 5 minute look at his arm w. the M's and say that it is anything but elite. It's average.

It shouldn't even be controversial.

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:59 am

They just happened to get it wrong, a guy is rated 55 but is actually a 45? That's a huge jump, if it was somehow possible it be news. Yeah it be controversial

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:01 am

If there's an issue with his arm then what is it, is he injured? I do think it be getting talked about

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:16 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:01 am
If there's an issue with his arm then what is it, is he injured? I do think it be getting talked about
I don't know.

You don't watch the games, but if you saw the 9th inning... he made the exact play featured in the Tweet I posted twice, but instead of making a strong throw, he bounced the ball 5-8 times.

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:20 am

If his arm isn't what was touted that would call into question drafting him in the first place. He was a reach for the second round, he wasn't in the top 200. They drafted him there because of his defense and they felt his hitting could come around. If his defense isn't really there then yeah, i think that be pretty controversial.

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Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:28 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:20 am
If his arm isn't what was touted that would call into question drafting him in the first place. He was a real reach for the second round, he wasn't in the top 200. They drafted him there because of his defense and they felt his hitting could come around. If his defense isn't really there then yeah, i think that be pretty controversial.
His glove is elite. His range is very good. His arm is OK.

I think he was called up too early. He's got some contact in his bat and I could see him becoming a .270/.330/.400ish hitter in his prime with plus defensive skills.

But he's no Keybryan Hayes. THAT is an elite glove...

Williamson is dead last in fWAR among 3B's that have played at least 75 games. He's ranked 23 among players who have played at least 45 games. The glove isn't doing enough to counter the lack of a bat and a team that is serious about the playoffs shouldn't play that.

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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:28 am

That was Arozarena's 9th home run in July, supposedly that means Arozarena joins Junior and Jay Buhner as the only mariners to accomplish that

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Post by bpj » Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:51 am

Hard to believe theres a portion or the fan base that thinks this is acceptable.

Williamson is a waste of space, it's not that difficult.

Maybe he'll be better than Kelenic, but thats not saying much.
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