Looks like five more years of horseshit Offensive Lines

[auroraave]

Way to early to make such an assessment. Last year's draft class didn't impress me much. Knight was the only bright spot. Murphy and Barner were meh, Haynes was awful.

My bad, I forgot the "bar' on this forum....
Win every game.
Defense produces a shutout every game.
Offense scores TD's on EVERY possession.
No penalties - EVER.
No kicks or punts are ever returned by opposing team.
Anything less than 18-0 = "fire 'em all!"
Every single player on the 53 man roster MUST be either an all-pro every year or be a first ballot HOF'er - even the 3rd string QB. If there are injuries - every back up must be the best EVER at that position - NO exceptions.
^^^^^ anything less than this and "Schneider/McDonald/Jody Allen sucks."

This past draft being unanimously ranked as one of the best doesn't matter because in 2017 a player drafted didn't go to the HOF AND someone jumped offsides against Cleveland. Sell the team! Move it to Bismarck STAT!
Remember kids - NOTHING good has ever happened with this franchise - nothing. To suggest there is ANY hope or any bright spots or pointing out the team has been one of the most competitive franchises over the last 15 years is strictly forbidden!

[Michael K.]

timing seems odd, I'm not against keeping him but why not wait to see how the season goes

During Schneider's time as GM, the Seahawks have compiled the sixth-best record in the NFL at 147-96-1 and have won 10 or more games in nine of the past 13 seasons. Seattle has made the playoffs 10 times in 15 seasons and has won five NFC West titles and two conference championships under Schneider.

Numbers like this are why we should appreciate what he has done, but the past four or five years are why he should have had to prove it before getting four more years.

[Michael K.]

Way to early to make such an assessment. Last year's draft class didn't impress me much. Knight was the only bright spot. Murphy and Barner were meh, Haynes was awful.

My bad, I forgot the "bar' on this forum....
Win every game.
Defense produces a shutout every game.
Offense scores TD's on EVERY possession.
No penalties - EVER.
No kicks or punts are ever returned by opposing team.
Anything less than 18-0 = "fire 'em all!"
Every single player on the 53 man roster MUST be either an all-pro every year or be a first ballot HOF'er - even the 3rd string QB. If there are injuries - every back up must be the best EVER at that position - NO exceptions.
^^^^^ anything less than this and "Schneider/McDonald/Jody Allen sucks."

This past draft being unanimously ranked as one of the best doesn't matter because in 2017 a player drafted didn't go to the HOF AND someone jumped offsides against Cleveland. Sell the team! Move it to Bismarck STAT!
Remember kids - NOTHING good has ever happened with this franchise - nothing. To suggest there is ANY hope or any bright spots or pointing out the team has been one of the most competitive franchises over the last 15 years is strictly forbidden!

What are you talking about?

Tell me, have you been happy with the O Line play while John was here, especially the past half decade or so?
Do you expect a GM that has "lead" his team to one playoff appearance in the last four years deserves an extension now?

If you do, then disagree with those that don't, and maybe have an actual point to disagree with. But these drive by bullshit strawman arguments are ridiculous. No one has said ANY of the bullshit you just typed.

[Captain 97]

This is absolutely nothing to worry about. Front office contracts mean nothing as far as commitment. They can kick him to the curb anytime if things fall apart. M's Signed Jack Z to an extension and 367 days later they canned him.

[Michael K.]

This is absolutely nothing to worry about. Front office contracts mean nothing as far as commitment. They can kick him to the curb anytime if things fall apart. M's Signed Jack Z to an extension and 367 days later they canned him.

Even so, it's an odd look. Miss the playoffs three out of four years? What the fuck, here's four more years!

[Pharmabro]

G.A.F.

[DavidGee24]

timing seems odd, I'm not against keeping him but why not wait to see how the season goes

During Schneider's time as GM, the Seahawks have compiled the sixth-best record in the NFL at 147-96-1 and have won 10 or more games in nine of the past 13 seasons. Seattle has made the playoffs 10 times in 15 seasons and has won five NFC West titles and two conference championships under Schneider.

Even though I think he's overall a good GM, this probably would have been a better idea, especially with his having signed Sam Darnold this offseason. What if he sucks and Schneider screwed the pooch?

[Donn Beach]

timing seems odd, I'm not against keeping him but why not wait to see how the season goes

During Schneider's time as GM, the Seahawks have compiled the sixth-best record in the NFL at 147-96-1 and have won 10 or more games in nine of the past 13 seasons. Seattle has made the playoffs 10 times in 15 seasons and has won five NFC West titles and two conference championships under Schneider.

Even though I think he's overall a good GM, this probably would have been a better idea, especially with his having signed Sam Darnold this offseason. What if he sucks and Schneider screwed the pooch?

Yeah, and Pete and Geno have a revival in Vegas...I'll give you my Jody Allen argument. She does it now because she wants him running the team whether the team crashes and burns or not. So why wait for that to happen and still do it. And I don't blame her, he's a good GM. The Seahawks are respected around the league as being well run. She's looking past the Oline and the season. She's changed directions with the PC firing, that was enough for her, she's going to stick with JS. And I don't blame her or mind it. I really think she has bigger fish to fry with settling Paul's estate than the seahawks. For her it's not broke.

[douche]

My bad, I forgot the "bar' on this forum....
Win every game.
Defense produces a shutout every game.
Offense scores TD's on EVERY possession.
No penalties - EVER.
No kicks or punts are ever returned by opposing team.
Anything less than 18-0 = "fire 'em all!"
Every single player on the 53 man roster MUST be either an all-pro every year or be a first ballot HOF'er - even the 3rd string QB. If there are injuries - every back up must be the best EVER at that position - NO exceptions.
^^^^^ anything less than this and "Schneider/McDonald/Jody Allen sucks."

This past draft being unanimously ranked as one of the best doesn't matter because in 2017 a player drafted didn't go to the HOF AND someone jumped offsides against Cleveland. Sell the team! Move it to Bismarck STAT!
Remember kids - NOTHING good has ever happened with this franchise - nothing. To suggest there is ANY hope or any bright spots or pointing out the team has been one of the most competitive franchises over the last 15 years is strictly forbidden!

Your post makes no mention of the offensive line, which is what the thread is about. And I have to agree, it is pretty offensive.

Although the last couple of drafts have been very solid, in my opinion.

[auroraave]

My bad, I forgot the "bar' on this forum....
Win every game.
Defense produces a shutout every game.
Offense scores TD's on EVERY possession.
No penalties - EVER.
No kicks or punts are ever returned by opposing team.
Anything less than 18-0 = "fire 'em all!"
Every single player on the 53 man roster MUST be either an all-pro every year or be a first ballot HOF'er - even the 3rd string QB. If there are injuries - every back up must be the best EVER at that position - NO exceptions.
^^^^^ anything less than this and "Schneider/McDonald/Jody Allen sucks."

This past draft being unanimously ranked as one of the best doesn't matter because in 2017 a player drafted didn't go to the HOF AND someone jumped offsides against Cleveland. Sell the team! Move it to Bismarck STAT!
Remember kids - NOTHING good has ever happened with this franchise - nothing. To suggest there is ANY hope or any bright spots or pointing out the team has been one of the most competitive franchises over the last 15 years is strictly forbidden!

Your post makes no mention of the offensive line, which is what the thread is about. And it is offensive.

Although the last couple of drafts have been very solid, in my opinion.

No, it's a thread complaining about John Schneider. Here's a question - how many teams have great olines? You can probably count on one hand. The talent coming out of college is not very good - the problem is league wide. However, you would have to use context when analyzing any particular position group and the trends - but on here =- that HAS to be ignored and ALL context has to be disregarded - because that usually kills of the 'outrage" and people would rather be outraged than actually study the problem. It's much, much easier. Also, drafting in hindsight is popular. We MUST NEVER mention Seattle has been so competitive that they get KILLED in drafting position (shhhhhhh, we can't mention that because that's called CONTEXT! Totes forbidden on here!)

Here's an alternative take.
Schneider just drafted one of the best olineman in the draft in the first round
Schneider just had what is considered one of the BEST draft classes of anyone this year.
Schneider had put together one of the deepest and most talented secondaries in the league.
Schneider has assembled on of the deepest dline rotations in the league.
Schneider may have the deepest QB group in the league - MIlroe could quite possibly be the steal of the draft.
Schneider has assembled one of the youngest and most talented rosters in the league.
Schneider has assembled one of the most promising coaching staffs - a staff with a clear vision - and has assembled complimentary talent.
Seattle won ten games last year - if not for a Geno brin fart - they likely win the division and head into the playoffs.
Schneider dumps brain fart Geno, grabs the best free agent QB's, drafts Milroe, and and dramatically improves the QB room.

You could look at it that way - right? The POINT of my post is that it simply DOES NOT MATTER how many wins Schneider has, some folks will ONLY EVER nit pick to complain. You COULD embrace the direction this franchise is going in - clearly an upward trajectory - or you can hand wring and lament olines that didn't pan out.

Here is the truest truth you will ever read on this forum: Seattle could have all pro's across the board on the oline - there will be no mention of that - it'll be "OMG the back ups aren't better" of "yeah, but our LB group isn't better." There will be the next up on the list of "JS sucks because...

You can look at what IS - and this team looks quite capable, or lament shit from the past - which is utterly silly. That's like having you car in park and the accelerator peddle buried - it ain't gonna get you anywhere and your just wasting gas.

My perspective is Schneider has been a massive massive net positive for this franchise. Failing to recognize that - I can't take those folks seriously. Expecting others to attain other's ridiculously high expectations - again, I don't take them seriously. We all want a trophy, but it's rare. And we aren't lacking trophies bacause JS sucks. He's not perfect - no one is - but the expectations that EVERY draft pick pans out and every decisions is the right one - JFC - that's not how the world works. Hand wringing other humans for being flawed - while being flawed - is laughable.

The moral of the story is some folks will ignore all the positives and only lament the negatives. That's on them - not JS. Enjoy a little perspective and remember this while whining about past failures....

“If you are depressed you are living in the past.
If you are anxious you are living in the future.
If you are at peace you are living in the present.”
― Lao Tzu