Tis a great day to be a Husky!

[D-train]

I almost hate to go here with this, because I have mentioned it before, but I really do believe that Seattle, and all the reasons to hate being there has a lot to do with it. Even before it became what it is now, we heard many talk about not liking it there. Griffey had to talk ARod into staying the first time, and the first thing he said when he got to Seattle was "what the Hell do guys do here?"

That was before. The city sucks, downtown has been destroyed by the Summer of Love and all the rest of the bullshit that idiot Mayor allowed, and now they actually have an ex-barista Socialist as the Mayor? And the entire State is expensive, but Seattle is a nightmare. I just don't see many wanting to stay here unless they were already from here.

On the expensive issue, but aunt owns a second home in Suncadia. Yes, it is an amazing home, and a very large home, but what she pays for power in one month is about what I pay for the year. Puget Power. Seattle is a shit show, and while DT has pointed out before that you can live away and commute, these guys already sleep in their office half the time. Do you really want to fight that traffic even more on the rare occasion that you do get to go home?

No amount of money would get me to live in Seattle. So, if the option is to live in Seattle and coach the Huskies or live in Ann Arbor and coach the Wolverines? How many besides people with deep ties to the City or at least to the West Coast are going to make that call? DeBoer's daughter was coming to Washington to play softball, and he left. We had an AD chose to go to fucking Nebraska! People want out of Seattle, not into Seattle.

I agree with everything you said about Seattle but Living in Kirkland and working in Seattle is like living in Wenatchee and working in Cashmere. Not even a thing. Did you know that Ann Arbor is a suburb of fucking Detroit? Michigan also has a 4% income tax. I lived in the Midwest for 3 months. I would rather live in Mongolia.

[Michael K.]

Driving to Cashmere is zero comparison. The traffic over there is nuts. Sitting in bumper to bumper is horrid. I could never live over there. I’d shoot myself and probably everyone around me!

[Michael K.]

The difference I guess is I've always lived over here. When I drive home from Wenatchee? I exit the bridge and drive behind the Mall. It means I avoid Grant road and all the lights. It is easily faster, but it's mostly so I can be driving and not sitting at a stop light. The thought of being in a car and sitting there, or driving five to ten miles an hour? Fucking kills me.

So, my option as a Husky coach would be to live close to the stadium, which I agree, around campus is certainly better than downtown Seattle, or commute and basically live in my office all the time since I can't stand sitting in traffic.

As for an income tax in Michigan.....I have a hard time believing that over comes all the other taxes here in Washington. So? I asked my buddy the Google!

Seattle is significantly more expensive than Ann Arbor, primarily driven by housing costs, with Seattle's overall cost of living being roughly 40-45% higher than the national average, while Ann Arbor is only about 5-6% higher, making Seattle a much costlier place to live, especially for housing and utilities.

Cost of Living Comparison
Overall: Seattle's cost of living is considerably higher (around 45% above national average) compared to Ann Arbor (around 5.5% above national average).

Housing: This is the biggest differentiator; Seattle housing is over double the national average (107% more expensive), while Ann Arbor housing is more moderately higher (around 16.6% more expensive).

Groceries: Expect to pay more in Seattle (around 9.8% higher) than in Ann Arbor (around 10.3% higher), but the difference isn't as stark as housing.
Utilities: Seattle utilities are similar to the national average (0.4% more), whereas Ann Arbor utilities are slightly cheaper (4.1% less).
Transportation: Seattle transportation costs are higher (32% more), while Ann Arbor's are slightly lower (1.6% less) than the national average.

Key Takeaway
If you're choosing between the two, Seattle offers big city amenities but demands a much larger budget, particularly for housing, while Ann Arbor provides a more moderate cost of living, making it more affordable overall

I'll take the small income tax. You won't find a bigger Husky fan than me, but I might turn down the job if it meant I had to live in Seattle! LOL

[Michael K.]

I'll see your 4% income tax, and show you that Ann Arbor has a Sales Tax of 6% and Seattle is 10.35%.

Businesses aren't exiting that shit hole because it's affordable. And, did I mention it's a shithole!? LOL

[D-train]

The difference I guess is I've always lived over here. When I drive home from Wenatchee? I exit the bridge and drive behind the Mall. It means I avoid Grant road and all the lights. It is easily faster, but it's mostly so I can be driving and not sitting at a stop light. The thought of being in a car and sitting there, or driving five to ten miles an hour? Fucking kills me.

So, my option as a Husky coach would be to live close to the stadium, which I agree, around campus is certainly better than downtown Seattle, or commute and basically live in my office all the time since I can't stand sitting in traffic.

As for an income tax in Michigan.....I have a hard time believing that over comes all the other taxes here in Washington. So? I asked my buddy the Google!

Seattle is significantly more expensive than Ann Arbor, primarily driven by housing costs, with Seattle's overall cost of living being roughly 40-45% higher than the national average, while Ann Arbor is only about 5-6% higher, making Seattle a much costlier place to live, especially for housing and utilities.

Cost of Living Comparison
Overall: Seattle's cost of living is considerably higher (around 45% above national average) compared to Ann Arbor (around 5.5% above national average).

Housing: This is the biggest differentiator; Seattle housing is over double the national average (107% more expensive), while Ann Arbor housing is more moderately higher (around 16.6% more expensive).

Groceries: Expect to pay more in Seattle (around 9.8% higher) than in Ann Arbor (around 10.3% higher), but the difference isn't as stark as housing.
Utilities: Seattle utilities are similar to the national average (0.4% more), whereas Ann Arbor utilities are slightly cheaper (4.1% less).
Transportation: Seattle transportation costs are higher (32% more), while Ann Arbor's are slightly lower (1.6% less) than the national average.

Key Takeaway
If you're choosing between the two, Seattle offers big city amenities but demands a much larger budget, particularly for housing, while Ann Arbor provides a more moderate cost of living, making it more affordable overall

I'll take the small income tax. You won't find a bigger Husky fan than me, but I might turn down the job if it meant I had to live in Seattle! LOL

This commute from Yarrow point which is on the East side to Husky stadium is 5 miles and 9 minutes. That is faster than it takes me to drive from Walmart in North Wenatchee to your bridge which is about 4 miles. So a HS coach that lived near Walmart an coached in East Wenatchee would have a worse commute. I worked from home from 2008 - 2020 so almost never was in traffic unless I went to visit my parents in north of Marysville. That Snohomish County traffic was way worse than when I commuted from Kirkland to DT Seattle.

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[Michael K.]

Yarrow Point looks very nice. Look, people are leaving, LOTS of them. Most because they don't like it there. I am sure if you never want to leave your house, never go out and do anything? Yarrow Point is awesome. But at some point in time, these coaches families don't want to just sit in the house while their husband is working. And the Families hate it there....at least that has sure been the feel the last several times we had coaches, ADs and staff leave.

You also can't talk about a 4% income tax, and then throw Yarrow Point out there. Are they worried about money or not?

Yarrow Point is an ultra-exclusive, wealthy enclave near Bellevue, offering significantly higher-end, waterfront, and large estate homes with premium pricing, while Seattle encompasses a broad range of neighborhoods from expensive (Queen Anne, Capitol Hill) to more affordable areas (South Delridge, Beacon Hill), providing diverse housing but generally lower price points than Yarrow Point, focusing on lifestyle, culture, and varied commutes, making Yarrow Point a pure luxury escape versus Seattle's dynamic urban mix.

Yarrow Point: Ultra-Luxury & Exclusive

Market: Extremely high-end, focusing on luxury waterfront estates, large lots, and prestige.

Vibe: Quiet, private, extremely affluent, with a strong emphasis on exclusivity and Lake Washington access.

Comparison: Think "Bellevue's most exclusive" or "Seattle's rich-list" – it's in a different league than most of Seattle.
Seattle: Diverse & Dynamic

Market: A vast spectrum, from very expensive (Fremont, Queen Anne) to more accessible (Rainier Beach, South Delridge).

Vibe: Eclectic, urban, culturally rich, with distinct neighborhood personalities (e.g., artsy Fremont, historic Queen Anne).

Housing Types: Condos, townhomes, single-family homes, varied styles, dense urban living.

Key Differences
Price: Yarrow Point homes are vastly more expensive per square foot and in total value than most Seattle properties.

Lifestyle: Yarrow Point is about serene, private luxury living; Seattle is about vibrant city life, diverse amenities, and cultural immersion.

Accessibility: Yarrow Point offers quick commutes to Bellevue/Eastside tech, while Seattle offers commutes across the city and Puget Sound.
In short, Yarrow Point is for the ultimate luxury buyer seeking privacy and waterfront, while Seattle offers a broad range of urban living experiences at varied price points.

So, in the same topic you have told me that Ann Arbor is not a place to be because of a 4% income tax. But then listed the community they should live in that is described with such words as "extremely high end, ulra-rich, most exclusive, affluent".....

Sorry, housing pricing, sales tax and every other tax our POS Governor can throw in there, disgusting down town....I think that trumps 4% income tax. Not to mention, Michigan seems to have the better football program. They've beaten us two of the past three, including a Natty. Not sure what the recent issues will do, but to act as though Seattle is a destination, for coaches that don't have ties? I have to disagree. It's a stepping stone for anyone that doesn't have ties, and even that Fucker Mora turned us down, shortly after calling it his dream job!

[DavidGee24]

When I left Seattle in 1987 the population was about 500K, and now it's almost 800K. That many people in a city that's basically an isthmus, UGH. Fortunately only once in my visits up there have I really experienced Seattle rush-hour traffic and it was even more horrendous than what I've experienced here in Los Angeles and Orange Counties. I couldn't imagine working in downtown Seattle and commuting from any of the suburbs.

[Michael K.]

I was in Atlanta for work in January or February of 2020. Had to rent a car and visit clients. I was told that Atlanta traffic was the worst, I was going to hate it, blah blah. I got a call from my boss that evening and he asked about it and I was like "dude, haven't you driven in Seattle?"

I've never seen worse than Seattle....never. I've driven in LA, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Austin, Dallas, San Francisco, Boise....and I'm sure I am leaving some out. NOTHING was as bad as Seattle. And I mean the entire area. Try to get to Olympia, Tacoma, Federal Way? It's all shit.

[D-train]

I was in Atlanta for work in January or February of 2020. Had to rent a car and visit clients. I was told that Atlanta traffic was the worst, I was going to hate it, blah blah. I got a call from my boss that evening and he asked about it and I was like "dude, haven't you driven in Seattle?"

I've never seen worse than Seattle....never. I've driven in LA, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Austin, Dallas, San Francisco, Boise....and I'm sure I am leaving some out. NOTHING was as bad as Seattle. And I mean the entire area. Try to get to Olympia, Tacoma, Federal Way? It's all shit.

The Seattle to Tacoma Commute is horrendous. When we used to head down to Camas to visit my wife's brother it would take longer to go from Kirkland to Tacoma than Tacoma to Camas but guessing UW Football coaches don't do that commute. I was in Bellevue Kirkland Lynnwood on the 23rd and 24th and there was no traffic. Granted Holiday season but still. I commuted from Kirkland to DT Seattle for a decade and it was fine. About a 20-25 minute commute.

The Eastside is far more like living in Wenatchee than Seattle. The Midwest is old flat and decrepit with zero redeeming qualities. I would never live there again even to coach a slightly better football program.

[Michael K.]

The Eastside is far more like living in Wenatchee than Seattle. The Midwest is old flat and decrepit with zero redeeming qualities. I would never live there again even to coach a slightly better football program.

I couldn't live in the Mid West either, but I'm not coaching college football. I just believe we are going to be limited in our choices based on Seattle and the fact that these guys have families that don't want to be here.