Can Hancock Handle the John Thomas? Monday 20th GT

[HawkandMariner88]

Does Stanton even attend games? Probably not

[DavidGee24]

Managers don't get fired for making mistakes, Wilson isn't making mistakes, he's applying his judgement. What Dipoto will claim is the team needs a new voice. That players are no longer listening to him. That was the deal with Servais and it will be the deal with Wilson

His pinch hitting decisions have gone 0-18 this season and in second ABs for those pinch hitters they're 1-11 (Cal's walkoff against the Yankees). So 1-29 total, he continues to do it and continues to lose ball games. They're mistakes.

[Donn Beach]

Managers don't get fired for making mistakes, Wilson isn't making mistakes, he's applying his judgement. What Dipoto will claim is the team needs a new voice. That players are no longer listening to him. That was the deal with Servais and it will be the deal with Wilson

His pinch hitting decisions have gone 0-18 this season and in second ABs for those pinch hitters they're 1-11 (Cal's walkoff against the Yankees). So 1-29 total, he continues to do it and continues to lose ball games. They're mistakes.

That's not getting him fired, Dipoto isn't firing him because he thinks Wilson is making mistakes with how he handles pinch hitting. If they replaced Wilson with another manager they'd make the same sorts of decisions.

Is there anybody in baseball who's more committed to platoon splits than Jerry Dipoto? If Wilson decided to go against the dogma of platoon splits with his pinch hitting decisions that probably get him fired

[Donn Beach]

Does Stanton even attend games? Probably not

He probably prefers little league, they put him in their HOF last year. I was reading somewhere he likes attending LL games and do the scoring

“There is, perhaps, no club in all of Major League Baseball that supports their community Little League programs as much as the Seattle Mariners. In addition, Mr. Stanton, as Chairman & Managing Partner, has been an incredible leader and role model his entire life for generations of Little Leaguers,” said Steven P. Johnson, Little League International Board of Directors Chairman. “We are honored to recognize Mr. Stanton’s professional accomplishments, as well as his volunteerism, community-minded spirit, and dedication to our organization’s core values, with enshrinement in the Little League Hall of Excellence

“I am humbled by this amazing honor,” Stanton said. “For me, Little League is about family and fun. Some of my fondest memories as a child are of playing catch with my father, and one of my most cherished memories as a father is coaching my sons in Little League. They both played four years of college baseball, but if asked, they both would say the most fun they had in baseball was Little League.

https://www.littleleague.org/world-seri ... xcellence/

[Donn Beach]

From the LL game recap, Wilson sticking to the process isn't getting him fired. I saw a quote from David Sterns defending Carlos Mendoza saying he liked how he was sticking to the process even in the face of adversity. That's what GMs want to see. Baseball really is about sticking to the routine.

Again, I’m not really taking Wilson’s quote at face value here. I’m sure he knows Raley is hot and Refsnyder is not. I think the rationale here is that this is simply the Mariners’ process, and they’re not going to abandon that process for a hot hand in a small sample. Raley is hitting well, but he doesn’t have even 100 plate appearances, and he’s not won the full-time job quite yet. It’s also hard to do counterfactuals like this. Perhaps the A’s would have used a different pitcher if Raley was still in the game, and certainly handedness is not the only consideration in pitcher-hitter matchups.

Still, I’m just not a fan of the platoon-and-pinch process in general. I said as much last season when the Mariners were pinch hitting at historic rates, and I’m sure I’ll write a similar story this year if the trend continues. Hitters are simply much worse off the bench, and when you go for the handedness advantage early, you’ll often give back that handedness advantage later. That was the case Monday, even if it’s a bit of a stretch to blame the loss on that directly — the Mariners still gave up six runs.

[Donn Beach]

So the dodgers get to carry 14 pitchers because ohtani is considered a two way player, hadnt realized that

CHICAGO -- Cubs manager Craig Counsell thinks a Major League Baseball rule that allows the Los Angeles Dodgers to carry 14 pitchers because of Shohei Ohtani is "bizarre."

[mostonmike]

That's not getting him fired, Dipoto isn't firing him because he thinks Wilson is making mistakes with how he handles pinch hitting. If they replaced Wilson with another manager they'd make the same sorts of decisions.

Is there anybody in baseball who's more committed to platoon splits than Jerry Dipoto? If Wilson decided to go against the dogma of platoon splits with his pinch hitting decisions that probably get him fired

From the LL game recap, Wilson sticking to the process isn't getting him fired. I saw a quote from David Sterns defending Carlos Mendoza saying he liked how he was sticking to the process even in the face of adversity. That's what GMs want to see. Baseball really is about sticking to the routine.

As weird as this view might sound at first reading, its probably spot on. It might even sound like the manager is deliberately failing. He's not - he's just doing what his boss says - just as all us of do, most of the time.

Never go against your boss's wishes, intentions or strategies. Unless of course you can make a success by doing so. That's probably led to a lack of instinct and risk taking. He probably wants to shuffle the batting order like a few have suggested - but the data is saying Cal bats 2nd and Julio behind him so that's how it stays.

People rarely get fired for failing to follow "the process", but he’ll be out the door in a heartbeat for failing to follow the script.

[desbcoach]

Colt has a wrist injury. That is why he didn't play yesterday. Bad timing.

Did not know that, thanks for the info.

Yea really sucks. I mean wasent blowing it up but still would have been better then Rivas. This is embarrassing.

Leg in a tie game late. Dans wants this loss so so badly.

I can’t believe there isn’t a dead body on AAA or AA that would do better then Leguma

[XpertDBA]

Can someone give me any reason, any reason at all why you put Legumina in there in a tie game?

What would make any person with an IQ higher than 10 think that he would do any better last night, then his prior x number of appearances.

I just don't get it.

[Donn Beach]

Well Muñoz and Speier pitched back-to-back days, Bazardo had pitched back-to-back the day before. At some point Legumina is going to get into a game. You need to be able to use all your relievers.